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VOTING RIGHTS
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(10-14-2018, 05:09 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: To close this out with FryGuy:

1.   Our California DMV sucks big time and they did indeed upgrade recently, causing lots of double entries, site crashes, and some errors.  

Some non-citizens were reportedly inadvertently registered after getting/renewing a license and a bunch of citizens' registrations were screwed up. That's true.

Those registrations were canceled before early voting began.
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2. Politifact has rated plenty of claims by Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and many other Democrats and Liberals as false.  And, it's rated plenty of claims by Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Mike Pence and other Republicans and Conservatives as true.  

The ratings are based on facts, not on a liberal leaning.  

Since you don't trust the Politifact debunking of the Soro's voter booth conspiracy theory, you won't believe other sources verifying that it's false, so I won't post the links.
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3.  If you care, read up on all the editing Jame O'Keefe of Project Veritas has been busted out for in his undercover string videos to produce a false result which supports his anti-liberal views/agenda.  I don't trust the source because it's been proven not credible too many times.

The video of Alan Schulkin is the read deal though.  Schulkin really did say that as he gets older and more conservative he wants voter ID laws in New York.  He also answered the undercover sting operative's questions indicating he believed their was voter fraud in poor minority communities.  

He later said that he should  have said "potential fraud" as he had no evidence of any, was mostly trying to placate the woman who kept badgering him, and he still wants a voter ID law.

Who is Politifact owed by and how do you KNOW they are not impartial? You did point to them as sometimes saying Trump is true with some things and false about others but that is NOT the same as making a claim that they are impartial. This is what so many people do. They think citing Politifact is a conversation ender. It really isn't. It is the bizarre claim that because they have said something it is suddenly undeniably true. It would be beyond stupid to be of the opinion that they or any similar organisation is beyond inquiry, debate or dispute. Really, really stupid.

Yes I have read up on James O'Keefe and know all about him and Project Veritas.
I also know it is very convenient for the Democrats and Progressives to write him off completely. If these same people were completely honest (and they aren't) they will admit that there is a Hell of a lot that he DOES expose which is true and relevant and problematic. Are any of these cases of low level nobodies in an organisation simply saying dumb shit to be edgy or to impress someone? 100% Absolutely that there is some cases. They are being careless and sloppy and it does happen. So some amount of care has to be used. A grain of salt but that is not the same as saying ALL of it is bullshit and unreliable and not credible and indeed the changes that have come about as a result of Project Veritas have help male an imperfect system a little better.

California DMV Yup, so I was right in this instance. Thanks.

(10-14-2018, 05:01 AM)Duchess Wrote: I like being argumentative about politics but in general I don't care what trump supporters think, feel, or say. I've pretty much rendered all their opinions null & void. The walking dead have eaten their brains.

Yes, I think that those that are anti-Trump tend to be unhinged and irrational and willing to believe the craziest of things based on the least credible reasoning and alternative the things they disbelieve tends to be the things best supported.

They are said walking dead zombies.

(10-14-2018, 05:10 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, none of what you've posted is evidence of fraudulent votes cast.

I've had this discussion so many times over the years here and posted the reports of official voter integrity research.

I won't do that again because it's clear you will not believe the findings and you're convinced that voting by illegal aliens is a problem in the U.S.

Yes the problem with things like voter fraud is you only know about it if or when you find it. You cannot tell me how prevalent it is or how often it happens. You cannot tell me where or when it happens and how often it is not discovered. Can you?

Now are you wanting to equate the discovered instances and pretend it is in some way equated or relevant to the number of times it is done? Are you going to pretend there is a way to extrapolate that from the data and findings? You are not going to insult your and everyone else's intelligence to suggest that you have some kind of quantifiable figure here are you?

If I were you, I would pretend I was being unreasonable and that you have presented something meaningful and beyond question and that you are now unwilling to give further support to your assertions because I am just not listening to any of your wisdom. Right amount of indignant and haughtiness will cover for your intellectual shortcomings. (Oh you have just done that, then don't let me stop you or point it ought.
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VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 04-08-2018, 11:10 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 04-08-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Carsman - 04-09-2018, 06:18 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 04-09-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-17-2018, 11:11 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 08-17-2018, 11:35 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-17-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-17-2018, 12:22 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-17-2018, 12:32 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-24-2018, 01:27 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-13-2018, 08:38 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 08-17-2018, 01:27 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-17-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Carsman - 08-17-2018, 03:12 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 08-17-2018, 09:15 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 08-18-2018, 11:25 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-18-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-18-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-18-2018, 12:08 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 08-18-2018, 12:25 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-18-2018, 12:39 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by SIXFOOTERsez - 08-18-2018, 12:48 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 08-18-2018, 01:06 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-18-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-18-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-28-2018, 02:13 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 08-18-2018, 03:23 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 08-24-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 08-24-2018, 11:08 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-13-2018, 08:43 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 10-13-2018, 10:07 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-13-2018, 10:32 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-13-2018, 10:20 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-13-2018, 11:59 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 01:27 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Rootilda - 10-14-2018, 01:44 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-14-2018, 02:55 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-14-2018, 05:01 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:23 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-14-2018, 05:27 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:34 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:09 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:10 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-14-2018, 05:21 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:30 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-14-2018, 05:34 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-14-2018, 05:42 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-14-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-15-2018, 09:55 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 10-15-2018, 10:36 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-15-2018, 10:54 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-16-2018, 04:46 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Rootilda - 10-15-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-16-2018, 09:17 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-16-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Ski at 1SKY6 - 10-25-2018, 09:06 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-21-2018, 10:27 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-21-2018, 11:52 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by sally - 10-25-2018, 11:23 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-25-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-25-2018, 04:15 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Maggot - 10-25-2018, 08:47 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-25-2018, 10:42 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-25-2018, 11:31 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by sally - 10-25-2018, 11:40 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-25-2018, 11:42 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Duchess - 10-26-2018, 05:33 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by sally - 10-25-2018, 11:47 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 10-25-2018, 11:50 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-26-2018, 02:55 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by Fry Guy - 10-26-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 01-04-2019, 07:04 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 01-04-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 01-05-2019, 01:51 AM
RE: VOTING RIGHTS - by HairOfTheDog - 01-05-2019, 01:51 AM