A brief educational moment concerning later term abortions

[Fry Guy]

I am pretty sure Fry Guy called me a bigot up there.
I am also pretty sure he inserted the word, "White" into my post when I did not use that word to describe the men in congress making laws for womens bodies. Which he did not address at all. (I could say typical of a guy to insert something white....)
Cudos to you Mr Fry Guy for taking care of your daughter. You are 1 person. Sorry the mother is not involved. That is unfortunate.
Now let us get back to what I was addressing in my post.

I really don't want to castrate men (Maybe rapists) or make them sterile (maybe rapists). But I do want to see more laws and more activists that target men, not just women. Not just planned parenthood. Not just places where people go to get abortions.

AND THEN you did not even address the law where a woman could be killed for having an abortion. So there is that.

Thanks for coming.

men in congress making laws for womens bodies.

No black people can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for white people
No white people can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for black people
No women can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for men
No men can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for women
No disabled people can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for non-disabled people
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No adults can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for children
No children can hold an opinion on anything that would be beneficial for adults
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You are not being bigoted or pretending that a duly selected representative by virtue of their gender cannot fulfill their position? Are you? That would be bigoted. Are you being bigoted? You tell me. Perhaps you say it is not and you have a compelling reason that in no way infringes on the definition above and is not exclusionary based on gender and does not purport a collective failing or knowledge based on gender alone. Have at. I would love to hear a REASONABLE position that is not bigoted and is rational.

As to me being one person. Yes one person. Every male is one person and so is every female. I think most Dads in my position would have done the same and so would most mums. It is what parents do, as HoTD rather condescendingly and snarkily alluded to above. Women are no better or worse than men at raising kids or being parents. That is all.

I have no particular problem with having rapists castrated. Personally I think the sickos in society should be thrown into a pit with unscaleable walls, populated by half starved feral pigs. So I am with you there. Applying that sterilisation or castration standard as liberally as you were alluding to before was retarded and I guess you are acknowledging that. But I can't argue against rapists (men or women) and their forfeiture of rights (I do not think that they are human).

A law where women will get killed for having an abortion? Really. How will they kill her? Lethal injection, hanging? Firing squad? At what stage is the child she is aborting and why is she aborting it? I need details before I weigh in heavily on this.

My personal view on abortion if you care to know (just so you know what I am likely to defend or not) I am relatively centrist with left leanings on most policies. I am likely to mostly side with a "moderate" Liberal position but understand a moderate Conservative position, though not likely to agree. I will not back the crazy positions of the Leftist Progressive positions because they are crazy.

So I think abortion SHOULD be allowed and I think it should be regulated. I DO think it is killing a life and should be treated with as much gravitas as deciding to take a loved one off life support. There SHOULD be counselling and education involved in this process. I definitively understand the conservative position about not taking a life and I do not think that they are trying to take away women's rights but I do not think that in cases of rape and incest whereby a baby is conceived, a woman is told to suck it up, nor do I think where there is life threatening complications a woman ought to have no choice but take the risk to her life and to be very clear I do not think teens too young to be parents and make adult choices should be lumbered for life with bad choices. I also do not think that it should be a matter of convenience or a form of birth control.

I do not like the idea of full formed babies being aborted especially where they may be viable born and nor do I think there is MUCH to warrant second or third term abortions. I think that in cases like this they need to have a committee of doctors (male or female, it does not matter, right?).

I do think women do have rights and so do the unborn babies and trying to move to a place where abortion is available but heavily regulated and supported and whereby less abortion happens due to access to education, birth control and counselling is better in my mind. I think abortion ought to be acknowledged as not removing goo or a clump of cells but in MOST cases killing a foetus or dependent baby.