Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Stolly]

i'm going to reiterate what i said many pages ago at the start.

the bags and tape were weapons of opportunity. no murderers carry bags around. and 'pros' would use a fast method, a gun. these murders were personal.
secondly...i think Tiffany's phone calls were big fat red herrings.

Hey everyone, I am new to this forum and found it when I searched this case. I've been following the info about the murders. I've read some good stuff on here.

I agree with the fact that both the tape and the bags can be weapons of opportunity.

I do think that the perpetrators brought the tape with them. If they are robbing someone you should probably bring something to restrain the victims.

I think it is safe to assume that the perps had at least one firearm with them to make the couple comply with their orders.

If they bring duct tape and a firearm, I think they would bring gloves and make sure the tape is print free. It isn't a large leap from there for the perps to think of grabbing bags in case they kill the victims (but I'm thinking they could have pulled plastic bags from under a kitchen sink or a drawer of extra grocery bags).