Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

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Hi all-
I am a new poster and have never, ever, joined a thread before-so go easy on me. At first appearance this site seemed a little "scary" for the average curious web "nosey". But to be honest- I have been EXTREMELY impressed with the moderators, the respect the posters have for each other, and even the "fairness" provided to everyone with ALL perspectives. I have always tried my hardest to maintain an OPEN mind- but i assumed a thread like this could never exist because the "open" format might encourage pointless "crazies" to simply sabotage any real thought- but WOW- I am so impressed with the HONESTY and RESPECT you all allow each other's opinions-and the "crazies" are simply directed to a more appropriate thread ! (Even the "loons" are valued-they are allowed to rant in an appropriate forum-that's a lesson of true tolerance that our kids could benefit from!)
Anyhow-Like I said-I have been following this case and for some reason it has really bothered me from the beginning. I have absolutely no personal connection to any of the victims, but no matter how "normal" I consider myself (haha) I can't help but relate to the vulnerability and chaos these two families must be feeling. Lisa and Johnny were SO VERY human-flawed but desperately loved, and for some odd reason I feel like "paying attention" assures justice.
One quick question- The T person involved in this- she claimed in the 911 call that she was expecting a ride from Johnny- but she realized she needed to run the store FIRST, so she called Johnny to ask if he could wait a bit before picking her up. It just occurred to me, how'd she get the store? According to T, she had to wait until her friend's mom (?) came home to borrow her car to check on Johnny and Lisa after the disturbance. Is there a store within walking distance of “T’s” home? I wonder why “T” wouldn't have just ask Johnny and Lisa to make a quick stop at a nearby store instead of walking and then coming back to be picked up? Not sure if I even understand the claim T is making about why she wanted Johhny to wait before coming?

very interesting i never picked that up!!! I know alot of people are still asking - Why did she need a ride when she had transportation? (she drove to house later to check on LS & JC) she didn't have transportation initially as u said. She stated that she had to wait for friend's mom to get home so she could go check on them (so it sounds like she used friend's mom's car) As far as how did she get to the store - I think she probably walked. I know the street she lives on and that area of town. There are plenty of corner carry outs if she neeed beer or cigs or papers. But who would walk to store in such cold temperatures while pregnant when u could just wait 20 minutes for a ride??? she did say "run to the store" i believe. That's not the language i would use if I was going to walk. I know that i could wait 20 min for a smoke unless i was under influence of opiates (which i was after surgery) smoked liked crazy and wanted one "now"

That's a very good point about "running" to the store when she could have waited for a ride.

I think there's a good chance that Tiffany is a bag, fat, lair, so that needs to be considered when analyzing anything she's said. I suspect her story contains elements of the truth, heavily interspersed with bullshit cooked up to create her alibi or to throw the cops off.