Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[doing40thisyear]

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.

Ok, wait a minute....there is one thing mentioned in here that I never heard before "I would meet him at the house".....This changes alot!! If this is true, then she wasn't trying to get him out of the house so the robbery could happen/continue as thought before, this would indicate she wanted him to stay at the house which, makes no sense if she was aware that a robbery was happening or about to happen.

I'm thinking these people were already in the house when Johnny and Lisa got home. In regards to her also saying that she heard Johnny say "I'm on the"....he could have been saying "I'm on the phone with the cops" to try and scare the perps. Also, knowing there was holes punched in the walls, major ransacking in the bedroom etc, it sounds like this may have taken some time to do and could give motive as to why they killed them...if they kept saying "There is no safe" it could have simply pissed the perps off so much because they thought for sure there was a safe that they tortured them each time to get them to talk and finally just killed them. Another thing...Unknown mentioned awhile back that there was a white van (I believe) in the neighborhood days before...central security has white vans (I think)...is it possible someone they were aquanited with worked for central security?? Unknown mentioned in that same post that the wires had been cut.....someone had to know where the wires were, and have wirecutters.

I also just wanted to say that creeping through facebbok/my space/ and many other things, I am so saddened to see the lives all these kids live.

"I would meet him at the house"

She says this after she knows what has gone down, after she hear this supposed altercation. IF you believe anything TW said, that's the question. What's the truth, what's mixed with the truth...remember the best liars mix enough truth with their lies to make them SEEM believable.

Dunno if this has been addressed, as I'm the usual 10 pages behind in the thread, but when she said that about running to the store and meeting him at the house, that's a ??? for me. Did she mean, "I'm going to run to the story and meet at my house", or meet at Lisa's (IOW, she didn't need a ride any longer)?

I still find the run to the store story to be suspect. Hell, everything she says is suspect.

In regards to "I would meet him at the house" I always believed that to be the house that Tiff was staying at and not LS's. It sounds to me that she never got a chance to actually say those words or the sentence about running to the store to JC. The "arguing" started and he dropped the phone before she had a chance to. If I recall correctly she told the sheriff that she called JC back for a second time and "was gonna tell him" to wait a bit before he left because she was "running" to the store. Tiff also claims that she didn't have any transportation so she wouldn't have been able to meet him at Lisa's. She told the sheriff that she she had to wait for her friend's mom to get home so she could go check on JC & LS. I believe she had to wait for her to get home to use her car.

OK i will believe this when I hear that person who she borrowed the car from post on this forum that story...Also ....why did AJ take a lie detector test if he was at home studying....why did the Minor take the lie detector test..and why r they asking Tiff to take that test...WHY i would like to know? I mean she claims she was at home waiting for her friend's mothers car ...was the friend there also waiting for the mother or was the friend with the mother.