02-20-2011, 12:24 PM
(02-20-2011, 12:10 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:(02-20-2011, 11:44 AM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-20-2011, 12:06 AM)Methusala Wrote:(02-19-2011, 09:10 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: [quote='ToledoNative' pid='131201' dateline='1298160504']
I suppose this case could be gang related but it is important to know that Toledo gangs are not the serious "ride or die" gangs like they have in LA or Compton. Mostly just little white kids trying to be "gangsta".
Toledo is a dirty little hell hole. At least the location I grew up there. I grew up on the south side and attended the same high school that Johnny attended. If you ever get the chance to visit Toledo, quickly punch the person in the face who gave you the opportunity, and RUN!
You lived in and went to Bowsher district? I'm curious what area of that you found a hell hole. Just curious. I'm glad for you if you are happy where you are now.
It's all a matter of perspective and memory. Remember what Gloria Steinem wrote about Toledo. Many people including myself disagreed with her, but that's the way she saw it even back then.
I'm trying to give you all a perspective from someone who was born and raised in the same area as Johnny, as I believe this crime was a result of his aquaintances, not Lisa's (of course it could've been somone that they both know, but was mainly his friend).
People in Toledo have a certain mindset for survivial. I'm trying to provide some knowledge and insight as someone in that mindset.
I'll back up ToledoNatives sentiments. I didn't grow up in Toledo but right outside in the suburbs and we didn't go to Toledo unless it was to get drugs or alcohol underage. What's sad is that the South End is one of the better parts of Toledo. Bowsher was considered one of the best high schools (within toledo) from my memory. I can honestly say I would NEVER send my kids to school in Toledo. The education is lacking and the only thing they learn, is how to be a thug. Not to say there weren't thugs living in the suburbs too, but it really is night and day between the two. You really can't understand unless you've lived in the area. It's sad.
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It sure is scary. I live in Ohio about 1 hour from Cleveland and didnt realize that Toledo was so damaged. I can't imagine trying to survive these neighborhoods as a late teen/ early 20's individual. I guess that is why I do believe Tiff has more knowledge of this crime basically just trying to survive the thug/gansta persona she displays on her Facebook.