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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-20-2011, 08:30 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-20-2011, 08:15 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-20-2011, 07:23 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:
(02-20-2011, 07:20 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-20-2011, 07:05 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Not to slam the coroner but, I could have given that exact same answer without even seeing the bodies.

Yes...Vague isn't it....but I put it out there as statements are posted questioning the original and equally vague TOD as 1AM- to 4AM. The more recent "6 hours before being found" actually allows for the possibility of TOD before 11pm and makes speculation of the entire cronology which is based alot on TWs statements come into question. Especially the 11pm impression that LS and JC were alive and on the phone so if someone needs an alibi here it is....If the killer perpetrated the crime between 10-11pm and establishes his where abouts at 11pm. he has an alibi.....thanks to the belief we all all working under...that 11pm phone call.

It is accurate because Lisa was at work until 11pm. Johnny picked her up from work when her shift was over and they went to Lisa's house.

According to Tiffany she was on the phone with Johnny at 11 when all the ruckus went down, are you sure about the time?

The first estimation is done by determining body temperature. Once the human body has had its life snuffed out, the body immediately ceases generating heat. This cooling process begins very rapidly, but after a period of just a few hours the cooling process slows down until it essentially is the same as the temperature surrounding it. Although a variety of factors enter into the equation, typically the process of cooling down to a plateau takes about twelve hours. And even at that, not every part of the body cools down at the same rate; the torso can remain warmer than the fingers, for instance. And then there is the interior temperature, which can take over twenty-four hours to cool down to the same level as the exterior. By establishing the temperature to which the body has cooled it becomes possible to roughly gauge the time of death.

Hypostasis is another means by which medical examiners can determine time of death. Hypostasis begins immediately upon expiration, but its effects usually take at least a half hour to become visible. Hypostasis is essentially the settling of the blood in the lower parts of the body following death and is marked by a purplish hue to the area. Hypostasis is also useful to coroners in determining some causes of death in addition to the time of death.

The final determinant of the time of death is, of course, the onset of rigor mortis. While it is natural assume that the stiffness that accompanies rigor mortis would be the premier method of establishing the time of
death, in fact it is usually the path of last resort. The simple truth is that there are far too many variable factors involved, mostly according to weather conditions, that can affect the onset of rigor mortis. The body temperature effect is a much more reliable means of establishing time of death.

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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by concerned - 02-20-2011, 08:34 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
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