02-23-2011, 01:01 AM
(02-23-2011, 12:55 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:(02-23-2011, 12:53 AM)toledoarea Wrote: I'm not sure if you've seen this Mr. Z or not, but looking at him in the infamous picture and then looking at some of Johnny's pictures, even with Johnny's hands duct taped behind his back, I think Johnny would destroy this Mr. Z guy. No matter how strung out or desperate for drugs he was. Let's face it, Johnny had did jail time and was a fairly large young man. Some 135lbs minor is not gonna overpower Johnny. Now if you're saying Tiff, Mr. Z, and maybe two other guys that fit in the toyota carrola drove over to the house and overpowered Johnny and Lisa, that I'd believe. Mind you, although Tiffany is a capital E for Ediot, she is pregnant. A mother with even a little bit of common sense would avoid a physical confrontation with the thought of a miscarriage. One would hope anyway
yes that is the one thing I keep thinking back to, I have seen Z and he is a small guy. I have seen stories where even a small guy, that is strung out, will attack someone larger.. but yea JC was pretty big. There could have been a 3rd person, for sure. Who it is, I don't know, but what I do believe for sure is Z and T being there
I find it hard to believe that a spontaneous crime would culminate with a manner of death this unusual. There are many more convenient ways to subdue and kill someone. The thorough search in the bedroom for the safe also suggests premeditation.