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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-23-2011, 01:40 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 01:30 AM)Spalding Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 01:24 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 01:16 AM)Spalding Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 01:10 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: also to add to this.. I doubt they went to the house with weapons. First because they didn't anticipate the attack, and I don't think someone as young and broke as Z could get a gun. He could have perhaps had a pocket knife

Then how would he have subdued a bigger man without leaving any other signs of significant trauma (as disseminated by LE)?

I don't think it's impossible. And there's always the chance that there was a 2nd man there

I don't mean to be argumentative, but it's some serious shit to tie up and torture-kill two people in their own house when one of them is a weight-lifter who spent time in prison. If the perps end up being a 17-year-old weakling and a pregnant lady, I would be shocked.

I take no issue to it at all.. I invite debate, ideas and finding loopholes in my theory. I agree it would be shocking, but not as shocking as the mother being involved. To that, I have to say no chance in hell the mother is at all involved.

this story is just so compelling because of the amount of people that can be in the suspect pool.

- the mother (no way in hell! IMO)
- tiffany
- mr. z
- any other of their shady friends
- Lisa's stalking ex (I highly doubt this one)
- JC's fellow co-robber who JC allegedly snitched on (his name escapes me at the moment)
- or any friend of the co-robber
- tiffany's dead ex's gang ties (I believe a connection was made here w/JC being friends with the guy that killed Donald)
-Cuban mafia or gang (mafia, unlikely. Could be gang related though)
- the one guy that sells the Snitch shirts, who expressed that 2 people had pain, suffering and death coming to them
- or of course, could be totally RANDOM robbery, with perfect strangers.

did I leave anyone off? lol


I forgot about that. He said that shortly before the murders, correct? He's the one that Tiff's bf, AP calls his brother and the same guy hooked up with 475 Entertainment. Same guy Unknown said had done very violent things.

Perhaps the cast included:

Tiffany
AP
Z
M'P'Y
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by shitstorm - 02-23-2011, 05:11 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by hauntedlurker - 05-30-2021, 12:38 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-11-2011, 01:52 PM