Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

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Another good point. I really have to wonder if the suspects brought the tape/bags or got it from the house. I wish they would release more information! Lisa's parents would be able to confirm if that was possibly from their home. And about the safe... again, Mr. Z and Tiff had hung out w/JC and Lisa a few times at the house.. JC could have mentioned the safe at any of those times, or even at the party. Might as well look for that safe after the attack

also to add to this.. I doubt they went to the house with weapons. First because they didn't anticipate the attack, and I don't think someone as young and broke as Z could get a gun. He could have perhaps had a pocket knife

Then how would he have subdued a bigger man without leaving any other signs of significant trauma (as disseminated by LE)?

There very well good of been a gun involved used to subdue them, and probably used to pistol whip LS which would explain the blood from her head...let's face it, T's crowd is known to carry concealed weapons

Also wondering if the reason for the cell phones being found in pieces was to erase text messages. If I'm not mistaken records only show when a text message was sent/received but not the actual message itself

Good point on text messages the only that would be concerned is Tiff and her posse. A random home invasion or random burglar wouldn't give a shit.