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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-23-2011, 04:02 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 03:58 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:20 PM)lawheeze Wrote: I don't understand why some believe there wasn't always an intent to kill? Would a gang home invasion of people that know each other just end up with a couple tied up, able to talk? I think there's no way they would leave anyone alive to testify. I think the moment the perps put their plan into action, death was their intended outcome for the victims.

And I also don't get the idea that if one believes Tiff is involved that she somehow missed an opportunity to save JC & LS. If she was in on it, saving them from dying would be a betrayal of the gang and she would be the next target. She would not be "riding hard" for her gang friends if she aligned herself with the victims.

I don't think there are reluctant participants here. I think Tiff was either in it all the way or completely uninvolved.

I TOTALLY agree with this....in my mind, there was defint. INTENT to kill!

Most with an intent to kill don't usually use plastic bags and duct tape, except maybe the wandering serial killer, they know they are going to kill and bring something that will do the job. I think they brought duct tape to restrain and then it went overboard, and a brand new sociopathic psycho was born. JMO

True, but in my mind the perps may have gotten this idea from a glorified movie, etc.
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by Countryside_Belle - 02-23-2011, 04:59 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-11-2011, 01:52 PM