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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-25-2011, 08:55 AM)notsure Wrote:
(02-25-2011, 12:50 AM)pspence Wrote: none of her brushes with the law (Tiffany's) were in recent years...she truly seemed distraught to me...

TIFF was just charged with false info to LE in oct! Yes after looking at her mom I'm sure her childhood was hell, but that doesn't mean we can just ignore her current behavior and blindly believe what she says is fact. I don't know if she is involved or not, but b/c of her current behavior (current being 5 years to now) I have to at least question everything she says.

Part of what storm is getting at I think is that society must stop the pity party. It must stop saying "we will ignore your current behavior and give you the benefit of the doubt because your childhood made you like this. you get extra special treatment b/c we failed you in the past, even though you on your own are a drag on society now as an adult" I hate to be a prick, but to fuckin' bad. Adult, is the key here. responsible for your own actions. we all had something in our childhood that was fucked up. they need to shut the fuck up and get over it and get themselves and decide to do something with themselves. Yea, it will be hard, and yea, they will have to work to make it happen. thats real life. just part of the social contract. The easiest first step is stay away from the shit bags that are not going any where.

BTW I find it very scary that iraq vet didn't get the gansta slapped out of him when he served. usually the military really sets people straight. hence the boot camp style of juvi reform camps.

Thank you for pointing this out about Tiff's arrest in October. I had been waiting until I caught up on posts, but was going to say the say the same thing.
I also want to address the issue of Tiff not being a "Real Gangsta." I'm not sure why you (pspence) wouldn't think someone who threatens people with physical violence over FB constantly, was raised by a gun-
toting lady who flaunts her heroin sales service on myspace, has been arrested numerous times including an arrest just a few months ago for lying to police, frolicks with KNOWN gang-bangers who have lengthy criminal records, has an ex who was murdered during a home invasion robbery less than a year ago, and parties standing in his blood (and her "Donald's Widow" pajama jeans) as a memorial is not real gangsta. This is exactly Gangsta! And her whole - "I ain't scured" attitude is what gets her in trouble.
As someone who is from the area, let me just tell you that I had to drive on Western the other day and I WAS SCURED! I had a friend in High School who was dating a guy from 300 block and could have been Lisa. She would have me drive her over to her BF's house once in a while and it was full of parties exactly as you see in Tiff's pictures. It would get VERY scurry when someone would knock on the door and half the people would go into hiding and two guys with guns would stand behind the guy getting ready to open the door "just in case." I ended up at such a place because I was with a friend and was NOT going to leave her there alone. I was a young, dumb girl from the suburbs who knew better, but this is how TW and her crew LIVE!
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by LoserCity - 02-25-2011, 09:56 AM
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