02-25-2011, 10:58 AM
(02-25-2011, 10:21 AM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: TIFF was just charged with false info to LE in oct! Yes after looking at her mom I'm sure her childhood was hell, but that doesn't mean we can just ignore her current behavior and blindly believe what she says is fact. I don't know if she is involved or not, but b/c of her current behavior (current being 5 years to now) I have to at least question everything she says.
Part of what storm is getting at I think is that society must stop the pity party. It must stop saying "we will ignore your current behavior and give you the benefit of the doubt because your childhood made you like this. you get extra special treatment b/c we failed you in the past, even though you on your own are a drag on society now as an adult" I hate to be a prick, but to fuckin' bad. Adult, is the key here. responsible for your own actions. we all had something in our childhood that was fucked up. they need to shut the fuck up and get over it and get themselves and decide to do something with themselves. Yea, it will be hard, and yea, they will have to work to make it happen. thats real life. just part of the social contract. The easiest first step is stay away from the shit bags that are not going any where.
BTW I find it very scary that iraq vet didn't get the gansta slapped out of him when he served. usually the military really sets people straight. hence the boot camp style of juvi reform camps.
You'd think she'd (TW) grow up and straighten out for her childrens sake. I'm afraid the cycle will never be broken with some families... so sad
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Perhaps Tiff could get an apartment of her own, away from the gang,
and ask for some psychological assistance. It is possible she
has Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome from the violent death of
her boyfriend. If this was the love of her life, she could be in a
real tailspin. Also, if she could just try to get off drugs, life would
look differently and she would see beauty in raising her children
and living a nice calm life. I am particularly worried about
birthing children whose moms have been on drugs. The rate of
failure to thrive and delayed learning is so great.
I would encourage the MEN of the group to start taking
care of their women who are bearing their children and
demand that the girls TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.
Just a humble opinion.
Good Luck Tiff....You have it in you to do it!