Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

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both had injuries to their necks..

as much as I didn't want to, i went back and looked at Johnny's picture from his open casket. His entire neck is covered by this clothing.. buttoned all the way up under his chin. I wonder how bad the injuries were to the neck :( they most certainly were strangled before the bags were put over their heads.....

That had to take a strong person or multiple people. Johnny was a big guy; I can't imagine it being easy to strangle him. Gun or no gun -- your natural reflex and instinct would cause you to fight back.

"Fight or flight."

Exactly. You can see his strength in the pictures of him without his shirt. He looks very tall (6 feet plus) and exceptionally muscled. It's obvious he works out. I'm sure subduing him didn't go down easy. The only thing I can think of is the perps held a gun on the two of them, promising them they would not be harmed if they cooperated and the two of them subsequently allowed themselves to be tied up...thinking, hoping, even praying that the perps would keep their word. Then something went wrong, horribly horribly wrong, or the perps did what they knew they were going to do anyway and they killed both of them by placing the plastic bags over their heads and securing the bags with duct tape. That's the only explanation I can think of whereby there wouldn't have been much of a struggle AT THE TIME THE PLASTIC BAGS were going over their heads. Someone described the crime scene as being very bloody and I'm guessing Johnny grabbed a knife and tried to give as good as he got.

I would think they used something to make JC comply....sometimes when I have seen murders that perpetrated the most horrid crimes, I've wondered how the hell did they get these people to comply?? Usually there is a gun involved or a knife to someone's throat that they loved...they had some kind of leverage that's for sure!

That is the only thing that is making sense.