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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-06-2011, 09:56 PM)notsure Wrote:
(03-06-2011, 09:22 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: 1. John Sr who found the bodies
2. Wouldn't have to.... John Sr found the bodies
3. Why not? I'm sure the family had lots of questions for John Sr & they in turn told people who told people who told people
4. Everyone's different
5. If true, I think it was more that one person told another who told another & so forth

A. Not many. We know that Tiffany was the last to speak to JC, we know that there was a struggle in the downstairs portion of the home, we know that the parents bedroom was ransacked & holes were punched in the walk in closet walls, we know that there was evidence taken from the home which included, a lighter, pieces of white plastic baggies, scales, a dvd, a few other things.... I'm sure you can find a list arounf here somewhere. We know that JC * LS were suffocated with plastic bags of some sort, we know that JC was bound by ankles & wrists & plastic bag was secured with duct tape, we know that LS wrists were bound with duct tape & plastic bag was secured with duct tape, we know that there was a "pool" of blood in the bag of LS, we know that JC was at the home of VD prior to leaving to pick up LS from work..... I think? that about covers the FACTS

B. Good question! Also if Tiffany were a big heroin dealer why didn't she have her own vehicle, place to live etc & so forth In my opinion she is not a big heroin dealer.

I'm not sure we really know anything other than the two are dead. we don't really know if tiff talked to johnny, but we maybe there was a call had between johnny's and the minor's phone at 11ish. who was on the phone's is anybody's guess. and we can say for fact the 911 calls were made at the stated times, and we know what was said on those calls. Of course we don't know if the statements on the 911 calls are fact. At this point I'm looking at every bit of info as a variable. For example, the holes in the closet. None of us have actually seen them, and maybe that bit of info was put out there to suck someone into saying something stupid.

I don't think one person could have done this. I broke it down way in the begining of how and why the mechanics of these murders would be very tough for one person, even with a gun. Unless they complied.

last, I always wonder if the perps are already back in juarez (spelling)? DCTim's comment always keeps me optimistic though.

I stand corrected Notsure, we don't really know if Tiffany was actually the last to speak to JC, we just know that the minors phone placed a call around 11 pm & Tiffany, per her own testimony claims to have spoken to JC at that time when the confrontation is reported to have begun. We also do not know for fact that there were holes punched in the wall. That was testimony from LS's uncle which I took as fact believing that he had no purpose to lie.... I could be wrong.
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by Freshbait78 - 03-06-2011, 10:11 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
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