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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-07-2011, 09:09 PM)van64 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:28 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: purely speculation on my part..if in fact the killers brought the tape, but not the bags, that says to me they only planned on binding the victims while they tore up the house looking for the alleged "safe". and when things got out of control, they used the bags they found in the house to kill them. i never, and you can look back to the beginning, thought that they came with the intent to murder.

I absolutely believe that to be true as well. Things got out of hand and Lisa fought lilke hell I can tell you that!!!!! They probably were not expecting Johnny and Lisa to be that strong!!

Kitty Kat, what leads you to believe Lisa fought like hell? Surely there is evidence, too, that Johnny fought like hell? Also what can you tell us about a working theory involving how you bag and tie someone (two someones) who are struggling? Were they knocked out?

There is evidence that Lisa fought but I know of none on Johnny. I think the perps subdued Johnny quickly probably with a gun. I think they tied him up first so he was essential immobilized. they next got Lisa because there is evidence that she was not in that same room when perps arrived. I think Johnny yelled to her upstairs and she was prepared to attack whether they had a gun or not. If someone had a gun at my head I would think they may shoot me so I'm gonna fight like hell.
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by kitty1 - 03-07-2011, 09:16 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
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RE: Revisiting - by koko - 08-25-2019, 03:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by hauntedlurker - 05-30-2021, 12:38 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-11-2011, 01:52 PM