08-17-2015, 11:12 AM
You're wrong, Maggot.
I was referencing your suggestion that your objection to abortion applies only to late-term abortions, rather than all abortions (I don't recall your statement about morning after pills at all).
You suggested a seemingly arbitrary and self-invented definition of "late term" in a subsequent statement you made in this thread (wherein you said that you don't support banning abortions up to like an 8 week cut-off). I asked you for clarification and you chose not to answer. That's okay; I support your right to choose too!
Anyway, if you support the right to choose up to 8 weeks (which is long before the fetus can feel pain or survive on its own outside the womb), then I think it's logical for me to assume that you don't consider life to start at the point of conception, or you do consider life to start at point of conception and yet you support murder up to 8 weeks. There aren't any other explanations that I can imagine.
I'm not trying to trick you or corner you or anything like that. I'm just trying to understand where the hell you stand in this topical discussion, which is difficult to ascertain based on your statements.
Yes, I stand by my statements and I've supported them with credible sources.
And, yes, no doubt there have been more abortions by blacks alone (and whites alone, and Hispanics alone) since Roe vs. Wade than there were Jews killed in WWII.
I support the federal cut-off criteria for abortions in Roe vs. Wade -- the point at which the fetus could survive on its own outside of the womb (est. 22 - 24 weeks), with exceptions for mother's life, rape and incest. However, I would not object to pushing the federal cut-off up based on the criteria of fetal-pain capacity (est. 18 - 20 weeks) with the same exceptions. And while I don't like late term abortions, I also don't object to states like yours choosing to offer unlimited term abortions.
I was referencing your suggestion that your objection to abortion applies only to late-term abortions, rather than all abortions (I don't recall your statement about morning after pills at all).
You suggested a seemingly arbitrary and self-invented definition of "late term" in a subsequent statement you made in this thread (wherein you said that you don't support banning abortions up to like an 8 week cut-off). I asked you for clarification and you chose not to answer. That's okay; I support your right to choose too!
Anyway, if you support the right to choose up to 8 weeks (which is long before the fetus can feel pain or survive on its own outside the womb), then I think it's logical for me to assume that you don't consider life to start at the point of conception, or you do consider life to start at point of conception and yet you support murder up to 8 weeks. There aren't any other explanations that I can imagine.
I'm not trying to trick you or corner you or anything like that. I'm just trying to understand where the hell you stand in this topical discussion, which is difficult to ascertain based on your statements.
Yes, I stand by my statements and I've supported them with credible sources.
And, yes, no doubt there have been more abortions by blacks alone (and whites alone, and Hispanics alone) since Roe vs. Wade than there were Jews killed in WWII.
I support the federal cut-off criteria for abortions in Roe vs. Wade -- the point at which the fetus could survive on its own outside of the womb (est. 22 - 24 weeks), with exceptions for mother's life, rape and incest. However, I would not object to pushing the federal cut-off up based on the criteria of fetal-pain capacity (est. 18 - 20 weeks) with the same exceptions. And while I don't like late term abortions, I also don't object to states like yours choosing to offer unlimited term abortions.