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I'm with Maggot!

I'm a firm believer in: Do unto others, before others do unto us!






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09-21-2012 08:15 PM
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Pakistanis are nuts anyway, one just has to look at what happened when they seperated them from India.

But let's put this somehow into perspective. Here in Sana'a we had about a thousand people going nuts. That's about 0.004% of the population. People who are easily manipulated by the ones taking advantage of exactly those issues. You have a small crowd, you find 4 to 5 Al Qaeda guys among them, who will then start the spark. And it happens each and every time. And each and every time people die. Many times innocent ones as well.

So since we know this happens each and every bloody time, why the fuck do people keep doing it? Just so they sit at home far away and laugh when they see all the action on a TV? Why the fuck do they want to get us killed here? Anybody putting up pics of Jesus in a gay bar? Sucking off a goat? No.

We living here just shake our head. Who is more stupid? The 0.004% of Muslims reacting or those who know exactly what will happen when they put up that shit?





09-22-2012 04:03 AM
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What the .004% don't seem to understand is that we have no way of preventing this type of thing without passing laws that infringe on our right to free speech (which I pray to Muhammad won't happen). There are tons of pictures mocking Jesus, I'm sure. What sane people realize is that they're just pictures.





09-22-2012 12:23 PM
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I don't share the view that killing all Muslims is the answer and agree that it's likely a minority portion of the Islamic population that fans the flames and encourages violence and death against those outside the Islamic order.

There are batshit crazy Christian fundamentalists here who peddle hate like it's candy too. The fear of condemnation and repercussions from the majority of the population and its authorities should be strong enough to minimize the influence of extremists, for those who don't see martyrdom as the ultimate honor yet. We don't hear much about what's being done to stop these Islamic extremists locally, but doesn't mean it's not happening. It's a question, not a claim that it's not happening.

Why should Western media halt its non-violent freedom of speech and expression via the press to satisfy terrorists and violent extremists? Of course I don't want to see innocent Muslims or non-Muslims killed during protests. But, to give up our own freedoms to avoid that type of threat/manipulation would be caving-in and demonstrating a weakness that would make many more people vulnerable to increased violence, imo.

I'm not laughing at any of the reactions personally and don't find the depictions particularly humorous, but will defend the right for them to be released (along with any other form of non-violent expression) all the way. Oppression due to fear is a recipe for disaster and just makes it easier for the extremists to gain the power and control that they seek, imo.

It took me less than 5 minutes to find these depictions of Jesus which have all been published; they are everywhere. There were thousands and thousands more.

Jesus the pedophile
[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2uEAp8Wovholaf4p4muC...sf9fX8O6aL]

Gay Jesus
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Jesus and bestiality?
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Jesus, Moses, Buddha and Ganesha in a gang bang (from Sept 13 2012 by our friends at The Onion)
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Mo, while I simply don't know if there are many blasphemous depictions of Jesus or other religious figures originating in the Middle East, I do know that there has been plenty of anti-Western (religious and otherwise) rhetoric publicly released from some regions there. Some probably valid, some extreme and for the purpose of inciting hate. I equally support their right to non-violently express themselves.

I wish the hate, violence and terrorism would end. Whether these kinds of depictions could really incite any of that if it wasn't already a goal is debatable, imo. Giving up our freedom of non-violent expression and satirical protest certainly won't stop it and may even encourage it - of that I'm convinced.

Stay safe and smart, as always...Smiley_emoticons_bussi





09-22-2012 12:39 PM
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There is one single thing that pisses these people off. And that is anything to do with their prophet. Trust me, I would be very surprised if any of those Jesus pics would originate here.

What is so difficult not to do it when you know exactly what's going to happen? I don't call that freedom, I call that some spastic who giggles from behind his safety far away trying to provoke. And trust me, the one doing it surely knows he is provoking as the end result always had been and will be the same.

Now being here in the middle of it all, just as I said, it is a vast minority, but just like in movie halls in the States, it takes a single idiot to ruin your day.

And that is how we see it here. We don't see it as celebrating freedom of speech but as some idiot trying to provoke. Kinda like Bruce Willies walking around in the Bronx with a bill board around his neck saying "I hate niggers!", only that this time Bruce got a neat flashing billboard with a remote control, sitting comfortably in his Malibu Villa, once in a while pressing that button. If they would have done that in the movie he sure wouldn't have looked that cool.

But yeah, our world is full of idiots all over and it will be impossible to put a stop to them no matter what.





09-22-2012 01:49 PM
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(09-22-2012 01:49 PM)Mohammed Wrote:  There is one single thing that pisses these people off. And that is anything to do with their prophet. Trust me, I would be very surprised if any of those Jesus pics would originate here.

What is so difficult not to do it when you know exactly what's going to happen? I don't call that freedom, I call that some spastic who giggles from behind his safety far away trying to provoke. And trust me, the one doing it surely knows he is provoking as the end result always had been and will be the same.

I understand both points of view and agree that just because we can do something doesn't mean we always should. It's incredible to me that any satire, provocative or not, is used by some as justification to kill. But, freedom of expression is essential in minimizing the power of violent extremists looking to manipulate others with narrow goal-serving religious interpretations, oppression, and intolerance imo.

Is Daniel Pipes correct when he asserts that running Islamic satirical cartoons every day will desensitize Muslims to them and eventually reduce violent protests? IDK. Maybe some Muslims, but probably not the extremists and terrorists who likely spur others to act violently imo.

I found it interesting that after French Charlie Hebdo staunchly defended its decision to exercise free speech and run the Muhammed cartoons this week (in order to "laugh at all extremists, rather than to provoke"), the French Foreign Minister publicly disagreed (he shares your opinion). Foreign Minister Fabius declared:

"I am against all provocations, especially during a period as sensitive as this one. I do not see any usefulness in such provocation," he told the radio station France Info. "There must be freedom of speech, but I am absolutely opposed to any provocation."

Sincerely hoping that there are no violent acts after German Titanic releases its Islamaphobia edition next week.





09-22-2012 10:21 PM
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I still believe that if everyone did it there would be to many targets. It will happen sooner or later, at some point in time.






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09-23-2012 01:02 PM
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I'm with you mate, and trust me, it's ridiculous to watch what all happens about something that makes people like us only shake their heads or giggle. But what to do?!

The problem is that it breads generations of hate. Where do you have those Mullah's? Those religious folks? In the schools. And of course, the Mosques. So you give that guy preaching to children about right and wrong as well as having his daily speeches to the rest of the population, ammunition. And trust me, THEY will use it. They are the ones putting the fire under the asses of the rest of the folks. They are the ones instilling those thoughts of hate in the younger generations. And suddenly you find young guys living in London bombing their hometown where they grew up.

You always find people that want to be led. People that are easily manipulated. It's human nature.

No, you will not give them more targets, you will simply just give them more years to preach their prayers.





09-25-2012 03:44 AM
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Isn't it interesting how people hide behind religion to execute their evil plans of power?

I mean, for me, I was born in Northern Ireland, my family wanted nothing to do with the violence. Yet the people who were carrying out their violence where hiding behind religion on both sides. Both sides wrong and oh guess what, some of the murderers are now in power in government over there! True story.





09-25-2012 03:56 AM
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(09-20-2012 04:47 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  
(09-20-2012 04:25 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  I'm with you Maggot.

I applaud the French Magazine Publisher who decided to do just that either today or yesterday.

I read about that as part of a related story this morning. Despite bomb threats, Charlie Hebdo publishing in France released a cartoon showing his backside (not labeled as "Muhammed", but clearly meant to be inferred as the Prophet).

The German satirical magazine Titanic is moving forward with a cover depiction of the the Prophet (again, not labeled but easily inferred to be inferred as Muhammed) in an issue next week mocking political use of Islamaphobia.

Regardless of how one believes the Islamic protestors should be handled, it's good to see press outlets demonstrating that freedom of speech and expression (and freedom to mock!) won't be thwarted by threats of violence.

Go go super troll.






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(09-25-2012 03:56 AM)aussiefriend Wrote:  Isn't it interesting how people hide behind religion to execute their evil plans of power?

Human nature. Be it the Azteks, Inca's or Maya's and all their sacrifices to their Gods, Spanish Inquisition, The Witch Hunts all over Europe, the Pope fighting a King, a King fighting a Pope, there's a beautiful one in Blackadders first series, I don't think 55 year old Horny Heidi and her black leather outfits from Amsterdam's red light area have been used and abused as much as religion throughout history.

I do believe in God and his Department Heads, but I don't believe in the human interpretation of it.

Except Budhists. Budhists open up massage parlours, strip clubs and build cities like Bangkok, Pattaya and dirty Disneylands. Such people just can't be bad!





09-25-2012 07:16 AM
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well this post sucked






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09-25-2012 12:43 PM
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I consider yelling "fire" in a crowded place when there's no fire to be a crime.

I consider farting in a crowded elevator to be very poor manners.

Provoking people is wrong even if they are already nuts but I'm afraid it must be free speech.

The drawings above are all in bad taste but I have no urge to go on a killing rampage.






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Obama spent nearly 30 minutes of his Annual UN General Assembly speech encouraging an end to violence in retaliation for blashemous depictions like the "Innocence of Muslims" video, which he called crude and insulting to Muslims and Americans alike. He stated that the answer to blasphemous speech/depictions in not to repress speech, but instead to encourage more of it to end bigotry.

At the same time, the Turkish Prime Minister (key ally) + Egyptian President + Iranian President are networking with all 57 Islamic nations in pushing hard for international anti-blasphemy regulations (in regards to all religions).

The issue reportedly overshadowed the crisis in Syria at the assembly.

Refs:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...2136.story

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...3527.story





09-26-2012 08:18 PM
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