01-23-2013, 07:36 PM
I’m just not sure whether it would make college campuses more safe or less safe, F.U.
Keeping campuses as gun free zones sure isn’t gonna stop a crazy with a mission from bringing guns in and shooting away at a bunch of unarmed sitting ducks. I get that and it's troubling. On the other hand, I’ve attended college and taught at a college; seen a lot of over-emotional hot-headedness going on in campus social circles, many times mixed with (or resulting from) immaturity, drugs and alcohol. I’m on the fence in terms of whether the pros outweigh the cons for students, but firmly in favor of teachers’ rights to conceal carry.
This was new info to me:
Concealed weapons on college campuses are banned outright in 21 states, and 23 states allow individual universities to decide whether to allow them, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Only five states have provisions allowing concealed handguns on campuses: Colorado, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin. Students for Concealed Carry is currently supporting newly introduced legislation to promote its obectives in six states right now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22...ref=topbar
Regarding the Lone Star College shooting specifically, it’s weird the way the story is unfolding (or not unfolding, really). There was supposed to be a press conference a couple of hours ago but nothing yet.
From the latest news reports published:
The second person in the altercation has been identified and is 25 years old – he will not be charged. One gun and one shooter was involved, but both men were shot (along with the incidental shooting of the custodian). I don't know whether the shooter intentionally or accidently shot himself, it hasn't been addressed at all from what I've read. Authorities are trying to figure out if these two men had an ongoing conflict and whether either was a student. I don’t know why it would take so long to confirm enrollment records and get statements (unless they are both in serious condition, but nothing I’ve seen mentions the severity of their wounds). I can't tell if info is intentionally being withheld or if these major details are still truly unconfirmed by LE as of yet.
One thing's for sure, both sides of the campus concealed carry debate are waiting for more details and hoping they can be used to support their opposing positions.
Keeping campuses as gun free zones sure isn’t gonna stop a crazy with a mission from bringing guns in and shooting away at a bunch of unarmed sitting ducks. I get that and it's troubling. On the other hand, I’ve attended college and taught at a college; seen a lot of over-emotional hot-headedness going on in campus social circles, many times mixed with (or resulting from) immaturity, drugs and alcohol. I’m on the fence in terms of whether the pros outweigh the cons for students, but firmly in favor of teachers’ rights to conceal carry.
This was new info to me:
Concealed weapons on college campuses are banned outright in 21 states, and 23 states allow individual universities to decide whether to allow them, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Only five states have provisions allowing concealed handguns on campuses: Colorado, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin. Students for Concealed Carry is currently supporting newly introduced legislation to promote its obectives in six states right now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22...ref=topbar
Regarding the Lone Star College shooting specifically, it’s weird the way the story is unfolding (or not unfolding, really). There was supposed to be a press conference a couple of hours ago but nothing yet.
From the latest news reports published:
The second person in the altercation has been identified and is 25 years old – he will not be charged. One gun and one shooter was involved, but both men were shot (along with the incidental shooting of the custodian). I don't know whether the shooter intentionally or accidently shot himself, it hasn't been addressed at all from what I've read. Authorities are trying to figure out if these two men had an ongoing conflict and whether either was a student. I don’t know why it would take so long to confirm enrollment records and get statements (unless they are both in serious condition, but nothing I’ve seen mentions the severity of their wounds). I can't tell if info is intentionally being withheld or if these major details are still truly unconfirmed by LE as of yet.
One thing's for sure, both sides of the campus concealed carry debate are waiting for more details and hoping they can be used to support their opposing positions.