GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[Cynical Ninja]

Your ignorance is again on full display in this thread. It's a shame your educational system failed you so dismally. Your anti-Americanism is well engrained.

To characterize the US as cannon fodder or that the European theater was winnable without the US is patently laughable. Material supply of food, oil, and munitions from the US before entering the war was critical to the UK staying afloat... and the industrial output and fighting force after entering was the turning point in the war. While you may not agree, I'll defer to the great Sir Winston Churchill. He knew once the US entered the war it was over for Germany. It's why he lobbied Roosevelt and American leaders to enter the war prior to December 1941; it's also what made him tell his aides that the war was over when he heard the news of the Pearl Harbor invasion.

You should visit some of the small villages that dot western Europe. Most of them have monuments the US and allies who liberated their villages. And most of them to this day still hold memorial services and have high regard for the contribution of the US to the war effort. Your denigration of it is pathetic.

With regard to any sort of gun control debate, you're entitled to your own opinion of course. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Like it or not, we have a Constitution. It protects what the founders considered the natural right of a citizen to have arms. They didn't define it by 'musket' or 'rifle' intentionally... they intended it to be absolute and not restrictive to posterity. Read the drafting and ratification debates and you'll have a much better understanding of the intent and history of our 2^nd amendment. Until then your rantings here are akin to a fish flopping on the dock.

Also, please note that should the majority of the citizens wish to change the Constitution or re-write it completely, they can at any time. There is no movement towards that at all, and until then we have the law as settled.

Finally, you are quite correct that we had an assault weapon ban in the past. It's effect on gun violence reduction was negligible. Additionally when the ban expired, there was no correlated spike in gun violence. Essentially it made absolutely no difference.

I have already said the US helped as part of the allies to liberate Europe in a previous post your own obviously lacklustre education has apparently had a negative effect on your reading comprehension skills.

The point I was making was you didn't, as sixfootersex so verbosely put it, “save our ass” during WW2. We saved our own ass while your wonderful country was naming uncle Adolf as “man of the year” in Time magazine.

The men, materials etc you provided for the march into Europe were very much appreciated but every single thing you provided down to the last bullet and rivet has been 100% repaid for. You gave us nothing for nothing, your wonderful country even put a dollar value on the lives of the American men lost in Europe which we have duly repaid. I do have to once again reiterate we owe you NOTHING.

I wonder if the various villages and towns in Europe have any monuments to the Japanese without whom, let's face it, no US troops would have been there in the first place.

I know all about your wonderful constitution the fact you can change it but steadfastly refuse to do so speaks volumes about the stubborness and pigheadedness of US cirizens in the face of rapidly changing times. The founding fathers had no comprehension, knowledge or understanding of such things to come such as “spree killers”, “high school massacres” or “firearm related deaths involving children having open access to their parents guns”. Maybe, just maybe, they would have had second thoughts about the 2^nd amendment and all its implications in the future?

I'm sure the founding fathers wouldn't have responded to a tragedy like Columbine or New Town with a phrase like “from my cold dead hands!”

So you will have to excuse me, this fish is going to continue to flop and state his opinion. Just so we are also clear on another point, your opinions are about as important to me as a flea on a dogs backside, tis easy enough to scratch.

Good day.