07-01-2015, 10:21 AM
(07-01-2015, 04:19 AM)Cutz Wrote: My problem with it is that you're still making guns the culprit when you're aiming gun lockup laws at protecting against negligence.
Good news for you Cutz -- you really don't have a problem at all, it's all in your head.
You won't find one post where I made the gun, rather than the negligent adult, the culprit. I haven't suggested charging guns with negligence and throwing all those tools (the guns) in the clink. I haven't suggested that guns be taken from any individuals or households with children.
Rather, I've stated that adults (you know, the "culprits") should be prosecuted for negligence every time their small children get a hold of their loaded weapons and fire.
(07-01-2015, 04:19 AM)Cutz Wrote: You're never going to pass federal legislation with the gun lobbyists out there. If your goal is negligence, make federal negligence laws for any case where kids die because they weren't supervised properly. You'll save a lot more kids with a lot less opposition.
I do agree with FU's take tho. Getting the NRA on a gun-safety kick, as you mentioned, would be the best bet. Improve their image and make the community more aware.
I don't know why you're telling me what I already stated in terms of a specific federal law being impossible to pass in the CURRENT environment, but thank you for your agreement.
If a parent causes the violent death of their small child by any means (except via gun negligence) they are almost certainly charged and prosecuted anywhere in this country. There should not be an exception for unintentional firearm shootings. IMO, the only reason there is such an exception is because of backwards rationale, politics and special interests being prioritized over the young victims. That's messed up and needs to change.
It's nothing less than gross negligence by the adults when they leave a loaded deadly weapon in reach of small children; nothing less in the eyes of any objective mentally-sound adult, in any state. But, in many cases where a gun is fired by a small child and it leads to death/injury, that gross negligence on the part of the adult is rationalized or a blind eye is turned to it and the parents are positioned as the victims.
Times change and opposition can be overcome; happens all the time. For example, lesbian couples are getting legally married all over the country today despite decades of strong individual, special interest, and political opposition to same-sex marriage.
If one of those married lesbian couples leaves a loaded gun in reach of their small child and the child fires it, maybe one day in the not too distant future that couple will undoubtedly be charged and prosecuted for neglect because they violated a nationwide mandate regarding gun safety.
Better yet, maybe the fact that the parents were required, by specific law, to practice child gun safety (lest face guaranteed neglect charges in case of an "accident") will have prompted them to keep loaded guns out of their child's reach in the first place.
Giving up on good causes just because there is opposition is for losers.