07-06-2015, 01:32 AM
(07-05-2015, 11:25 PM)Cutz Wrote: First, you require everyone to register for permits to acquire and to keep guns. Then, you stop giving out those permits. Then your gov't has all the guns, and your people can't stop you. Similar to Germany in 1938 when they rescinded already in place gun restrictions only for members of the Nazi party.
The US gov't infringes on the Bill of Rights every day. The best deterrent of them throwing it out completely is the second amendment. I don't even own a gun, but I believe strongly in the right for Americans to have one. It's awful when a kid accidentally harms themselves, it's tragic when a criminal murders a dozen innocent people. The only thing worse is an unchecked government capable of murdering millions. I think if you asked the founding fathers about the current state of the U.S., their first comment would be: "The PATRIOT act?!?"
Well, I think you may be the first of those who've invoked Godwin's Law in this thread who at least did not make the false claim that Hitler initiated gun control and took all the guns away from the Jews.
As far as the second amendment goes, I too respect it, in full. That includes the "well regulated" part. Even if one is so inclined as to compare the U.S. government today to 1938 Nazi Germany in order to oppose gun registration, it's an irrational excuse to automatically reject attempts at better control/safety (regulation).
The U.S. government has expressly outlawed a federal registry and there are tons of pro-gunners in the government and the population supporting the second amendment. A federal gun registry leading to confiscation is not a direct nor logical outcome of universal background checks (and even less so in regards to safe storage laws).
I believe you've previously expressed support for both universal checks and safe storage laws upthread, so I'm not suggesting that you're among the irrational Cutz, just jumping off your post.
(The Patriot Act was essentially repealed last month.)