GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[BlueTiki]

You're gonna have to dumb it way down for me Tiki.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make with your "Top 28 mass murders by president's political affiliation" statistics.

Are you contending that the political affiliation of the president in office is a direct contributor to the number of shooters who pull the trigger and murder 4 or more people in a single incident?

Here's what I posted:

My statement that more mass-shootings occur during a Democrat presidency was an attempt to make an absurd correlation, relating to gun violence. There are so many out there, I thought it would be fun to present another . . . a lampoon. It was in the same vein as having a gun buyer sign a paper (promising to break no laws) and comparing it with the Iran agreement.

Anyone with a modicum of sense, sanity and rationality would see the ridiculousness of the relationship. No . . . I take that back. Those who are governed by entrenched emotion, preconceived perceptions and contempt . . . prior to investigation . . . would predictably take offense. Maybe those with the flu, too.

The facts are clear: A Democrat Administration causes people to commit mass murder. This conclusion is from The Onion. They also concluded you have a greater chance of being a victim of a mass-shooter in months beginning with an "A" or "J".

The whole "big flashing neon sign" Onion thing didn't seal the deal, for you?

What can I say? Oh, well.

There is no comprehensive and codified database, regarding every aspect of firearms.

I believe you've posted this fact, too.

Anyway, I read the CNN article about an hour after listening to Cross-Eyed and Painless.

The article is titled: 28 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. History Fast Facts. It was updated at 6:17 PM ET, Sat October 3, 2015.

I included EVERY shooting and the dates, listed in the article. NOTHING was omitted to manipulate the outcome. CNN gave me 28 shootings and I used them all.

I stated the source and key words contained in the title.

Ima gonna bet no one bothered to search for and read this article, before commenting.

I don't fault that attitude. It's a time saver and doesn't prevent one from taking and spouting their offense with the "fact" or the poster. Maybe both!

As CNN is not typically connected with the political right (the pro-gun and NRA crowd), I tossed it out as another "fact", gleaned from data published by a reputable source.

If the article was published by a source perceived to be associated with the GOP, it would have been ignored . . . for the obvious and predictable pro-gun, alleged bias, bullshit.

So, there it was . . . data supporting a definitive and undeniable "fact"!

Then, a statement containing the "fact" and possibly suggesting a correlation.

Regardless of the party, I would have posted the same statement: "Why do more mass-shootings occur when a [fill in the blank] occupies the White House?".

If it turned out to be Republican, instead of Democrat, I believe the statement would have been challenged, too. And quite possibly used as . . . dare I say "ammunition" . . . against the pro-gun positions.

Although my statement is true, based on one specific, published article . . . there is no correlation to a particular political party in the White House and the resulting occurrences of mass-shootings. Or is there?

Do you think some of the other "facts" being offered as support, on either side of the issue, suffer from the same flaw and are accepted as truth . . . or maybe just by one side of the debate, only? You know the ones . . . "those" people!

That was a rhetorical question.

I blame CNN and the Talking Heads, for my post. They made me a victim!

I want to be a victim. Victims get love and concern. However, not from selfish, pro-gun people.

I hold Spy as Mock's authority on 80's music and groups. Many of you are good, but he cries. I mean he cries to the lyrics . . . not the whole bitch of Lanza's ghost thing, again . . . strictly the lyrics.

Yes . . . I know the Heads were around in the 70's and I am being serious about the little, panty-waste's ( deliberate play on words, user ) knowledge of 80's music and groups.

If anyone should be able to explain the connection, it would be him.

If he can't or is unwilling, the 80's title is up for grabs.

But seriously, why would anyone care about my stupid-ass connection?

Music doesn't kill people . . . or does it?

Again . . . both are rhetorical.

Sweet naked baby Jesus!

I feel like I've just testified before Congress.

As an aside . . . please forgive the delay in my postings. And for full disclosure purposes, these responses were composed off-line, due to time constraints and lack of wireless (no way was I doing this on my phone). Nothing was tweaked or edited ( except the text coloring ) because I wasn't responding in real time.

On Tuesday, a 32 year old, single mom underwent a double mastectomy. She has Stage 3 breast cancer. With the assistance of two friends, we are taking turns attending to her needs and those of her 6 year old daughter.

Even though I don't have a dog in the fight, I won't pass on an opportunity to make a difference, when I can and if I choose to do so.

And it seems I am making one.

The little one loves it when I read "NRA Bedtime Stories", to her. She's so cute when she plays with my loaded Browning and fills my 20, high-capacity magazines . . . all while humming Sinatra's "Chicago".

All of the above is true . . . except for two sentences ( For those of you in Avondale, this doesn't mean that it's really Stage 2 and one of the two, isn't a friend. ).