10-17-2015, 10:23 AM
(10-17-2015, 07:54 AM)F.U. Wrote:(10-16-2015, 11:02 PM)sally Wrote: For example they require a criminal record copy opposed to just letting anyone walk in and buy any gun they want with just an ID. What would be the harm in requiring that?
That is what the NICS call-in is for. That is also done when a person files for a permit to purchase, or a permit to carry [for those states that have such a system] .
Contrary to belief , dealers are required to do a call in to the NICS system for any transfer of a firearm conducted by a FFL holder. Yes even a deal conducted at a gunshow is held to this standard. All persons selling guns at a gunshow are required to display a copy of their FFL on their table as well. So this entire gun show loophole shit is just that, shit. If the promoter of the show would just do their job and check the people renting tables everything would be fine.
Occasionally a ATF agent will stop at a show to check around. When that happens the word travels like wildfire and you see the non licensed dealers pack and disappear rather quickly. By the time the agent hits the second or third table word of his presence has traveled through the show.
There is no way of stopping deals that go on in parking lots or behind closed doors. All the laws in the world will not stop that. If that is what people are referring to when they are talking about gun show loophole lets just call it what it is. A private party sale.
OK, I might have gotten a little sidetracked there. Forgive me its still early in the day.
Your exactly right F.U.
I see it going on at every show I go to, there is always a guy or two walking around in the parking lot that has a deal for you. I think it should stop personally. If you have a gun to sell put in an ad on one of the gun vendors sites and be done with it.
I have never bought or been offered a sale inside without the call in, but I am sure it happens here too.
All that said your also right, there is no way to stop that kind of activity and unfortunately thats where a lot of the problems come from.
I think about the only reasonable cure and its only a partial, it to trample on the rights of a couple classes of people: The tards and the felons, go search their house now and then and take their weapons. Of course that means tracking the tards and felons. One would think that the felons are already tracked, but I don't think so