GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[F.U.]

HotD, one thing my friends in Law enforcement and those that I know that are on the wrong side of the law, have taught me is that locks only keep the honest man out. While it will help to lock up guns when it comes to toddlers and such. It is not a golden bullet. Those set on doing these mass shootings WILL gain access to the firearms, locked up or not and do the deed.
As far as a trigger lock goes. They are just about useless. If a person wants to fire the gun they simply cut the trigger guard and the lock falls off, giving them access to the still functioning trigger.
Like I said, this problem will need to be approached from all sides if we want to solve it.

I understand, F.U. But, we were discussing gun locks and safes in the context of child protection specifically.

If the worst parents in the world always locked up their loaded guns around children, there would certainly be fewer shootings by small children of bad parents. If the best parents in the world always locked up their load guns around children, there would certainly be fewer shootings by small children of good parents. If all parents always locked up their loaded guns around children, there would certainly be fewer shootings by small children, period. It's really not subjective or debatable. That's the point that I and (I believe) others were making.

I'd like to see child gun safety legislation passed on a national level, regardless of the fact that some "good" parents falsely believe that their parenting will prevent a child shooting tragedy.

If it takes gun lock giveaways, some safe/vault subsidies, etc...to enact such a national child gun protection law, I think that's reasonable and a good investment.

Now we are getting somewhere. Now we both agree those measures will HELP, but are not a magic bullet.
Now we both agree that storage/safe subsidies will be a good investment.
I don't think we have agreed this much in a long time. Hahahahahaha