06-17-2016, 10:54 PM
(06-17-2016, 10:27 PM)sally Wrote: This happened when we were at Sloppy Joe's bar in Key West in March. Some drunk guy got in to a fight with his girlfriend outside and when two other guys tried to intervene he got pissed off and fired his gun hitting three innocent bystanders. We were inside the bar and they boarded up the windows and moved everyone to the back of the bar. Everyone was so drunk in there no one gave a shit what was going on. So I can see why they don't want every average Joe asshole running around with a CC, because of stuff like this. I don't think CC permits should be banned, but it should be difficult to get one.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...88112.html
Yeah, by far, most CC holders are responsible and they sometimes intervene and stop criminals. I don't object to CC permits either, but agree that the background check and screening should be thorough. That doesn't mean no CC holders (just like people packing illegally) will lose their shit and shoot people in public places, but it reduces the likelihood.
If it's too easy to get a CC permit, it's a problem. If someone with a CC permit is called in for acting strangely or making a threat, he can't be busted or have his gun confiscated if cops notice a gun on his person (as long as it's not a gun free zone), cops don't find any evidence of criminal activity, and the gun owner doesn't admit to criminal intent. If he acts normal enough and agrees to move on, the cops will most likely just send him on his way. If he's on his way to shoot his ex-wife and her friends as they leave the Dew Drop Inn tavern and he follows through, it's gonna suck for the cop in terms of backlash, but the cop just followed the law.
If the same guy had instead been denied a CC permit based on a problematic background, chances are much higher that he would have been arrested for carrying without a permit and/or had his gun confiscated before he could follow through with his plan to shoot people.
Here's a list of some gun owners with CC permits who committed mass/multiple shooting murders. http://concealedcarrykillers.org/mass-sh...y-killers/