USING THE DEAD TO SHAME/M.E. MIGRATION (GRAPHIC PIX)

[HairOfTheDog]

I shouldn't be laughing at the island of Lesbos.

This is a very serious subject, and you're laughing?

For shame!

Now, I'm not gonna share my thoughts about migration in relation to unincorporated U.S. towns like Spread Eagle, Wisconsin and Beaver Lick, Kentucky.

[Duchess]

This is a very serious subject, and you're laughing?

For shame!

I feel properly chastised.

[HairOfTheDog]

I feel properly chastised.

Seriously, I don't think the photo of the dead Syrian child on the shore is fully responsible for new EU immigration proposals currently under consideration. But, I do think the public reaction to the reality of the situation (as depicted in the photo) has pushed the need for immediate action to the forefront.

At the EU annual State of the Union Address yesterday, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker announced plans that he says will offer a "swift, determined and comprehensive" response to Europe's migrant crisis.


^ Under the new proposal, 120,000 additional asylum seekers will be distributed among EU nations, with binding quotas.

The new plans would relocate 60% of those now in Italy, Greece and Hungary to Germany, France and Spain.

The numbers allocated to each country depend on GDP, population, unemployment rate and asylum applications already processed.

It comes after a surge of thousands of mainly Syrian migrants pushed north through Europe in recent days. A lot of Afghans have also fled their country, which is still rife with corruption and violence nearly 15 years after the U.S. invasion.

Mr Juncker told the European Parliament it was "not a time to take fright". "It is the time for bold, determined action by the European Union," Jean-Claude Juncker declared on Wednesday. "This has to be done in a compulsory way."

"It is a matter of humanity and human dignity," he said, adding that many Europeans themselves have been refugees at one time or another. "It is high time to act, to manage the refugee crisis, because there is no alternative. No rhetoric. Action is what is needed for the time."

In his proposal, Juncker wants 22 of the member states to accept another 120,000 people, on top of the 40,000 already agreed upon, bringing the total number to 160,000.

Juncker also warned member states not to make religious distinctions when deciding to admit refugees. "There is no religion, there is no belief, there is no philosophy when it comes to refugees. We don't distinguish."

Germany, the main destination for many migrants, supports quotas, but some EU countries oppose a compulsory system. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic have already expressed dissent.

Countries that don't participate may face financial penalties.

Refs:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34193568
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/na...14912.html
http://www.hrw.org/news/2015/09/04/eu-fi...gee-crisis

[Duchess]

I'm really glad to see they are trying to work together in order to help. I know it won't be easy & I know that there are those that don't want to help but these are human beings who deserve an opportunity at life.

[Ski at 1SKY6]

Europe is expecting 850,000 refugees by the end of 2016.

[HairOfTheDog]

Europe is expecting 850,000 refugees by the end of 2016.

I believe it, Ski, and won't be surprised if the actual number exceeds 850k.

So, French leaders announced today that they'll ramp up their airstrikes against ISIS in Syria; they think that's the only way to halt the mass migration out of the country. They also denied requests from some of the French population to accept only Christian refugees into France.

Australian leaders announced today that they will increase their refugee intake by 12,000, increase their airstrikes on ISIS, and increase financial humanitarian aid. Australia has already taken in over 13,500 refugees on humanitarian grounds.

I still haven't read of any Gulf State leaders offering to take in refugees. Weak.

[Mohammed]

Of course the Gulf states won't take in any refugees. They did when the whole thing started, at least some, gave financially quite a bit, but now at this stage they will sure not open their borders for the homeless. The got enough South East Asians to take care of their service jobs, so no point really.

It's really awesome what the Saudis all get away with, no?

On another side note, so far we have about 20 missiles hitting Sana'a this wonderful morning, and a few days ago they seem to have started a new campaign by bombing the competition of the local KFC right in front of it. Death to fried chicken!

[Maggot]

Bastards!!!

[Mohammed]

You mean the .... Chicken?

[Ski at 1SKY6]

Europe is expecting 850,000 refugees by the end of 2016.

I believe it, Ski, and won't be surprised if the actual number exceeds 850k.

Now ABC News is projecting 800,000 will flee to Germany by years end. The overall number has got to be in the millions. This Arab Spring has a lot of fallout.

[Maggot]

See what happens when Russia starts playing war. They don't pork the dog. Everyone scatters. and the U.S. is gonna do what fly them over here? lol The plan is almost complete.

[HairOfTheDog]

Obama is getting slammed by some members of the U.S. Congress and religious/humanitarian organizations around the world following his pledge to take in 10,000 Syrian refugees next year.



For 2015, the Obama administrations allowed for 70,000 total refugees (from all over the world) into the U.S. (with 1,800 of those being Syrian).

By the end of the month, 2016's number is set to be established. The Church World Service and Democrats on the Immigration subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee are pushing for the total number of refugees accepted to increase to between 100,000 to 200,000 for next year.

As for Syrian refugees specifically, there is a petition signed by 62,000 Americans calling for the Obama administration to accept 65,000 Syrian refugees next year. Religious groups across the U.S want the government to shelter 100,000 Syrian refugees while Democratic Representative David Cicilline asked Obama to accommodate 65,000 migrants from Syria.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Thursday that "to scale up to a degree that some members of Congress may have in mind would have some significant fiscal consequences" because the background check process requires considerable manpower and time. "Congress would need to make a significant financial commitment to ramping up along those lines," he said.

Some members of Congress responded by pledging in their letter to Obama to "do everything [they] can to ensure that, if steps are taken to accommodate additional refugees, there will be adequate additional resources for U.S. resettlement agencies, and for security checks, in order to meet the increased demand."

Asked by Federal Bureau of Investigation director James Comey about the risk of Islamic State group extremists infiltrating the Syrian refugees coming into the United States, Earnest said it’s a threat that the U.S. government has to worry about. “We have to make sure we understand who is coming in because there is a risk here,” the press secretary said.

[Maggot]

I really don't "fear" the ones that come in and are easily located. Its the ones that come in and "disappear" in the crowd that I tend to worry about. Even when there is a manhunt for a criminal and all stops are taken out financially and legally it sometimes take a long time to find a person that's been fingerprinted and their faces plastered all over the news. As its been seen it only take one to raise hell. Although its been domestic terrorists that have been here and established already that have committed atrocities like Ft. hood. With the influx of migrants and other herds of humanity it could get interesting.

[sally]

My husband talks to his family in Hungary and watches the Hungarian news. They said if Mexicans acted like the Muslims at the US border they'd be shot to death. A large majority of them are single men (which I think should be sent back right away) they're not willing to identify themselves., they're throwing rocks and making throat slicing gestures and are snubbing their noses at the food that is offered, just throwing it on the ground like trash. I don't know, that's just the bit I watched on the news.

[Blindgreed1]

Israel can bite my ass. Friggin' terrorists.

I'm part Jewish, and I'm willing?

[Duchess]

Are you questioning your willingness?

[Blindgreed1]

Are you questioning your willingness?

Not even a little bit. I am formally applying for the job.

[HairOfTheDog]

U.S. House of Representative Approves Bill to Require Certification of Syrian Refugees



The vote was on the first of what will likely be several pieces of legislation in response to last week's terrorist attacks in France.

The House decided to initially take aim at the refugee resettlement program, based on the argument that terrorists might try their luck at getting to the U.S. through that cumbersome, typically 18- to 24-month process rather than coming to the country through other methods.

The Obama administration threatened a veto on Wednesday evening. But a number of Democrats peeled off anyway, under significant pressure from constituents to act after terrorist attacks in Paris last week. The bill passed 289-137 -- with enough support to override a veto, should there be one.

Some Democrats said the legislation simply wasn't as bad as the administration made it out to be, even after a briefing earlier in the day with White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson.

"It isn't what it was characterized as, so why would we oppose that?" Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.). He voted for the bill Thursday. They also expressed frustration that the White House hadn't better explained the refugee vetting process, which many agreed is already extensive, with voters and politicians.

The Obama administration said the House bill would "unacceptably hamper our efforts to assist some of the most vulnerable people in the world."

It may already be the end of the road for the bill. Never mind the veto threat; Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters that the bill "won't get passed" in the upper chamber. Senators are expected to leave town as soon as Thursday afternoon for a week and a half, and by the time they come back, the frantic push to block Syrian refugees may have eased.

"The initial reaction was overreaction," a senior Senate Democratic aide said, "and cooler heads will probably prevail when Congress reconvenes after Thanksgiving."

Full story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hous...745cf00f5c

[HairOfTheDog]

In the U.S., Republicans and some Democrats in Congress are backing a bill that would restrict Obama's goal of accepting 10,000 refugees into the country.

The U.S. vetting process already takes between 1 ¹⁄₂ an 2 years before cleared refugees can relocate to the U.S. The bill, if it unexpectedly gets approved by the Democrat-controlled Senate, could add an extra certification process on top of that and extend the vetting period.

Canada, on the other hand, is in the process of vetting Syrian refugees at a center in Lebanon. They've pledged to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees currently lodged in Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan; 13,000 of them by the end of this year.

Canada, however, will not accept single male Syrian refugees -- they are vetting women, children and families only. Ref: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/...come-plan/

[Maggot]

In the U.S., Republicans and some Democrats in Congress are backing a bill that would restrict Obama's goal of accepting 10,000 refugees into the country.

The U.S. vetting process already takes between 1 ¹⁄₂ an 2 years before cleared refugees can relocate to the U.S. The bill, if it unexpectedly gets approved by the Democrat-controlled Senate, could add an extra certification process on top of that and extend the vetting period.

Canada, on the other hand, is in the process of vetting Syrian refugees at a center in Lebanon. They've pledged to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees currently lodged in Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan; 13,000 of them by the end of this year.

Canada, however, will not accept single male Syrian refugees -- they are vetting women, children and families only. Ref: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/...come-plan/

I guess in Canada it takes less than 30 days to vette out the suspected asswipes.