SARAH PALIN

[ZEROSPHERES]

..... her endorsement could be valuable.

Oh Yes....makes sense. And it could return her some political dividends too. She is gonna need some good coaching. The media will be there for every minute of her tour and a little thing like even a slip on the step as she climbs back into the bus will play again and again. It's what I remember most about Gerald Ford. That and how he pardoned Nixon. I hated him that day.

[IMaDick]

Cabinet positions aren't cheap and neither is Palin.

[Maggot]

Palin scares the shit outta liberals.........Obama got elected!

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Palin scares the shit outta liberals.........Obama got elected!

Not me. I don't necessarily plan to vote for Obama again but if Palin were to some how pull off the Republican nomination, I'm pretty sure Barack would be a shoe in for another term. She has a rabid following but she also has a rabid group of people that would vote for ANYONE other than her. Myself included.

[username]

The Republican party is already having a hard time getting behind any one candidate. If Palin runs, she'll further split the party. If she runs, it would not be a good thing for Republicans (or the country) IMO.

[IMaDick]

Ya like what we have now is good for the country.

Obama said: "We're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy." —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010

[username]

Ya like what we have now is good for the country.

Obama said: "We're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy." —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010

Yawn. I'm sure I could go find some stupid quotes from every political leader EVER. Please don't waste our time with mundane bullshit; a substantive discussion (if you're capable) might be interesting.

[IMaDick]

Obama is not a leader political or otherwise.

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Here's why I don't hate Obama. First, he inherited a fucking mess (economically, internationally, every which way). Has he completely turned the Titanic? No. But would I have expected him to do it in 4 years? No. As commander in chief, I think he's done well (again, considering what he inherited). From an economic standpoint...meh. I'd give him a B (again, considering what he inherited). I think he's overspending but I distinctly remember when he took over as President that leading economists (on both sides) at the time advocated pumping money in to the economy and were warning of some huge credit tightening/major depression if that didn't happen.

Much of the bailout money has been repaid, correct? And even though unemployment still sucks...would it have been worse if those measures hadn't been taken?

As ugly as it was, he pushed through some healthcare reform which has been argued for/debated for decades. Like or dislike Obamacare, at least SOME progress was made in healthcare reform. Too bad the bill had so many attachments that it made it a fugly mess. But that's politics.

I'm all for cutting spending but rather than looking at the 10-20% of the budget, I think we need to look at the 80% of the budget (including defense spending, entitlements etc.). And yeah, while I'd prefer an overhaul in the tax system entirely, I don't know why we should have tax rates now that are lower than those in the Reagan or Nixon administrations. There's no indication that the Bush tax cuts helped our economy (in fact, if you look at our current situation, you could say the reverse is true).

[username]

Obama is not a leader political or otherwise.

I can speak in very few words too.


Bullshit.

[IMaDick]

Much of the bailout money has been repaid, correct?

You may want to find a new source for your information? and have your kids do the math.

http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplemen...uttracker/

[aussiefriend]

I believe the Obamas go to church on Sundays pretend to be Christian by attending an odd AME service every now and then, not Muslims, just money-worshipping liberals pretending they are more black than entitled. You have to be fair if you are going to be biased. Right?

incredibly judgemental.

Are you judging Cracker for judging? Hypocrite.

Are you judging me for judging cracker who is judging? how long did it take you to come up with that?

[Maggot]

Chrysler did not pay back the entire loan 7 billion was written off by the government. They basically got an interest free loan.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Chrysler LLC will not repay U.S. taxpayers more than $7 billion in bailout money it received earlier this year and as part of its bankruptcy filing.

This revelation was buried within Chrysler's bankruptcy filings last week and confirmed by the Obama administration Tuesday. The filings included a list of business assumptions from one of the company's key financial advisors in the bankruptcy case.

Some of the main assumptions listed by Robert Manzo of Capstone Advisory Group were that the Treasury would forgive a $4 billion bridge loan given to Chrysler in the closing days of the Bush administration, a $300 million fee on that loan, and the $3.2 billion in financing approved last week by the Obama administration to fund Chrysler's operations during bankruptcy.

An Obama administration official confirmed Tuesday that Chrysler won't be repaying the loans, though a portion of the bridge loan may be recovered by Treasury from the assets of Chrysler Financial, the former credit arm of the automaker which is essentially going out of business as part of the reorganization.



stnk link

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Thanks Maggot. I hadn't heard that. I'll read more about it later.

My biggest problem with Obama is spending. I actually prefer it now that the Republicans control the house because they're helping to reign Obama/Democrats in on spending.

[username]

Much of the bailout money has been repaid, correct?

You may want to find a new source for your information? and have your kids do the math.

http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplemen...uttracker/

My question mark was intentional. I was too lazy to research it last night and I was basing that on hearing (on some damn radio program) that Chrysler and others had repaid their bailout money with interest. If that was wrong, my bad. Now see, is that so hard Dick?

[IMaDick]

Here is the bottom line.


Fed total allocated $6.4 trillion invested $1.5 trillion

Where is the other 5 trillion dollars?

[Duchess]

I wouldn't have agreed to giving any business any money. Sink or swim. Businesses fail every day for a variety of reasons and I really didn't care a wit about any of them that were having financial difficulties. Didn't all that money come from the taxpayer? Did someone ask us if it was okay & I didn't get the memo?

[Maggot]

I believe we will see another downturn. Not that I want it but when inflation catches up and the Fed cannot print anymore money (yeah right! haha) the banks will hold onto any cash they have as the housing market continues crashing. What is needed is another innovation like the internet. That alone has spurred more spending than anything in the past 30 yrs. People should realise that things do not cost more, the dollar is just worth less. The indications last year of the dollar not being used as the basis for the world market was just the beginning of a new trend. If the dollar becomes any more undervalued we will see a true downturn in our financial standing with the world. As everyone cuts back on spending in America China begins spending more and more, countries today are not loyal and will dump the dollar faster than it takes to scratch your ass.
The issue in the future will be how much America gives to other countries and if China fills the void their political ambitions will also. Communism/Socialism will follow and after the U.S. depletes its natural resources we will be ripe for a takeover.
This will probably not happen in my lifetime but I can see the government grabbing the monetary assets of its citizens under the flag of "national security". Or at least taxing them to death.

[Maggot]

I wouldn't have agreed to giving any business any money. Sink or swim. Businesses fail every day for a variety of reasons and I really didn't care a wit about any of them that were having financial difficulties. Didn't all that money come from the taxpayer? Did someone ask us if it was okay & I didn't get the memo?

I agree the bigger companies are NOT "To big to fail" same with wall street. Whats next? Bailing out Walmart?

[IMaDick]

Duchess they didn't ask us even though many of us voiced our opinion, well over 70% of the country said no, but the dems in their all knowing wisdom told us we didn't know what we were talking about, my state reps Both Dems at the time by the way actually told me on the phone that it didn't matter what the people thought, she was not running for re election and she would be voting for the stimulus.

The arrogance of the government has gotten out of hand, we no longer have a representative voice in washington, it brings back vivid pictures of what the boston tea party was all about, taxation without representation.

By the way, the same thing happened with the health care bill, 75% or more of the people were opposed to it, but the Dems passed it anyway.

with speaker pelosy's famous words of "we need to pass it to find out what's in it"

Nancy Pelosi said: But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
Nancy Pelosi