Post: #617

(02-21-2012 05:50 PM)Cracker Wrote:  What is your point? What I posted was correct. If you want to add to it, go right ahead. Why do you have to add the pissing match to it?

The point I was making was, though you had some validity with your post, your explanation for why it was so windy was not the precise answer needed.

She's probably experiencing a ton of wind this year due to the location and strength of the North Atlantic Oscillation, which affects the jet stream. If the jet stream is carrying system after system directly over her residence, she's going to have more wind than she normally would.

The Oscillation works like a dam in a river. The jet stream moves around it, not through it. In the north central U.S., we'd normally have 30+ nights of sub-zero lows, but, because the jet hasn't been allowed to sink south and bring arctic air, we've had a total of 3 this year.

You explained temperature variances, precipitation, cold air and warm air masses colliding, etc., but not the true explanation of why it's been so windy where she lives.

Post: #618

A "warm" front just went through, and a cold front is right behind it, hence the wind and living right on Lake Erie doesn't help matters either. We're stuck between 2 fronts. This has been the case the majority of this winter. The last big wind storm was a low pressure system passing directly on top of us. I can see a LP system to the NW, I'm hoping it stays up in Canada where it belongs.

Post: #619

(02-21-2012 06:14 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  

(02-21-2012 05:50 PM)Cracker Wrote:  What is your point? What I posted was correct. If you want to add to it, go right ahead. Why do you have to add the pissing match to it?

The point I was making was, though you had some validity with your post, your explanation for why it was so windy was not the precise answer needed.

She's probably experiencing a ton of wind this year due to the location and strength of the North Atlantic Oscillation, which affects the jet stream. If the jet stream is carrying system after system directly over her residence, she's going to have more wind than she normally would.

The Oscillation works like a dam in a river. The jet stream moves around it, not through it. In the north central U.S., we'd normally have 30+ nights of sub-zero lows, but, because the jet hasn't been allowed to sink south and bring arctic air, we've had a total of 3 this year.

You explained temperature variances, precipitation, cold air and warm air masses colliding, etc., but not the true explanation of why it's been so windy where she lives.

Unequal heating is the cause OF ALL WEATHER ON EARTH. I explained ALL WEATHER. What part of that are you missing? Why is there a jet stream at all? Jesus, I had that class. I don't need the explanation, you just feel the need to post it.

Arctic Oscillation IS CAUSED BY UNEQUAL HEATING. That isn't the cause of the her local winds, btw. The explanation I gave is the correct one.

Your answer applied to regional weather patterns in the different hemispheres. Cracker wins.

(02-21-2012 06:20 PM)LuciferLynn Wrote:  A "warm" front just went through, and a cold front is right behind it, hence the wind and living right on Lake Erie doesn't help matters either. We're stuck between 2 fronts. This has been the case the majority of this winter. The last big wind storm was a low pressure system passing directly on top of us. I can see a LP system to the NW, I'm hoping it stays up in Canada where it belongs.

Not according to MS. Sorry, you are wrong. It is Arctic Oscillation (caused by low solar activity, but we won't tell him that part or that it has to do with winter temps, not local winds).


Please learn the difference between weather and climate, MS. They aren't the same.

Post: #620

(02-21-2012 06:27 PM)Cracker Wrote:  

(02-21-2012 06:14 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  

(02-21-2012 05:50 PM)Cracker Wrote:  What is your point? What I posted was correct. If you want to add to it, go right ahead. Why do you have to add the pissing match to it?

The point I was making was, though you had some validity with your post, your explanation for why it was so windy was not the precise answer needed.

She's probably experiencing a ton of wind this year due to the location and strength of the North Atlantic Oscillation, which affects the jet stream. If the jet stream is carrying system after system directly over her residence, she's going to have more wind than she normally would.

The Oscillation works like a dam in a river. The jet stream moves around it, not through it. In the north central U.S., we'd normally have 30+ nights of sub-zero lows, but, because the jet hasn't been allowed to sink south and bring arctic air, we've had a total of 3 this year.

You explained temperature variances, precipitation, cold air and warm air masses colliding, etc., but not the true explanation of why it's been so windy where she lives.

Unequal heating is the cause OF ALL WEATHER ON EARTH. I explained ALL WEATHER. What part of that are you missing? Why is there a jet stream at all? Jesus, I had that class. I don't need the explanation, you just feel the need to post it.

Arctic Oscillation IS CAUSED BY UNEQUAL HEATING. That isn't the cause of the her local winds, btw. The explanation I gave is the correct one.

Your answer applied to regional weather patterns in the different hemispheres. Cracker wins.

(02-21-2012 06:20 PM)LuciferLynn Wrote:  A "warm" front just went through, and a cold front is right behind it, hence the wind and living right on Lake Erie doesn't help matters either. We're stuck between 2 fronts. This has been the case the majority of this winter. The last big wind storm was a low pressure system passing directly on top of us. I can see a LP system to the NW, I'm hoping it stays up in Canada where it belongs.

Not according to MS. Sorry, you are wrong. It is Arctic Oscillation (caused by low solar activity, but we won't tell him that part or that it has to do with winter temps, not local winds).

You never said anything about pressure gradients or jet stream when trying to explain wind.

My explanation of a stronger North Atlantic Oscillation explains why the jet stream may be more active in her area than normal.

Hello??? Cracker loses.

Post: #621

PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL IS FUCKING CAUSED BY UNEQUAL HEATING.

I give up. You may have some words, but you entirely missed the concept.

Oscillations have to do with climate, THEY ARE GENERALLY FORTY YEAR WEATHER PATTERNS, not yealy weather indicators. Sorry, you lose.

Post: #622

(02-21-2012 06:37 PM)Cracker Wrote:  PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL IS FUCKING CAUSED BY UNEQUAL HEATING.

I give up. You may have some words, but you entirely missed the concept.

Oscillations have to do with climate, THEY ARE GENERALLY FORTY YEAR WEATHER PATTERNS, not yealy weather indicators. Sorry, you lose.

Unfortunately, in this instance, you lose.

Yes, you explained the general concept of weather, but not why it's been windier than normal where she lives.

Post: #623

(02-21-2012 06:39 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  

(02-21-2012 06:37 PM)Cracker Wrote:  PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL IS FUCKING CAUSED BY UNEQUAL HEATING.

I give up. You may have some words, but you entirely missed the concept.

Oscillations have to do with climate, THEY ARE GENERALLY FORTY YEAR WEATHER PATTERNS, not yealy weather indicators. Sorry, you lose.

Unfortunately, in this instance, you lose.

Yes, you explained the general concept of weather, but not why it's been windier than normal where she lives.

She asked about the wind, tard. Go look. Wind isn't caused by the jet stream, dumbass. Jet streams are 20,000 feet up. Just stop.

(02-21-2012 12:39 PM)LuciferLynn Wrote:  By the hurricane, I mean the wind. It's been terrible.

From NOAA:
The different modes or mechanisms of the climate system act on different time scales. Some of these mechanisms occur on short time scales, such as the changing of the seasons, which occurs regularly every year, or the El Niño-Southern Oscillation, which occurs irregularly every two to seven years. Others, such as the Arctic Oscillation and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, are important on time scales of ten to forty years. Variations of thousands of years are associated with orbital cycles of the planet, which appear to be related to past ice ages. The different frequencies of these variations harmonize, in a manner of speaking, to bring about the symphony that is our climate.

I'm sure they are wrong and you are right.



Jesus, arguing about the weather. WTH? That's a new one for me. I always heard there were people who would argue about the fucking weather. Now I believe it.

Post: #624

Cracker wrote:

She asked about the wind, tard. Go look. Wind isn't caused by the jet stream, dumbass. Jet streams are 20,000 feet up. Just stop.

I counter with:

The JET STREAM carries ALL weather, whether you want to believe it or not, tard. The location of the jet stream (overhead) determines how many systems will affect your weather. You need to just stop. Now.

Cracker throws this my way:

From NOAA:
The different modes or mechanisms of the climate system act on different time scales. Some of these mechanisms occur on short time scales, such as the changing of the seasons, which occurs regularly every year, or the El Niño-Southern Oscillation, which occurs irregularly every two to seven years. Others, such as the Arctic Oscillation and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, are important on time scales of ten to forty years. Variations of thousands of years are associated with orbital cycles of the planet, which appear to be related to past ice ages. The different frequencies of these variations harmonize, in a manner of speaking, to bring about the symphony that is our climate.

I'm sure they are wrong and you are right.

I'll once again defend my stance with:

You're the one who brought the name-calling into this, which makes me believe that you're just throwing more bullshit against the wall and hoping it'll stick.

If you don't think these oscillations are real THIS YEAR, than go look it up. You're good at that.

And, you're right, arguing about the weather is pretty childish. I was simply calling you out for 'knowing something about everything.'

Post: #625

pretty in pink...i KNEW we were going to get it!



The storm system will arrive in two waves.

This first round of precipitation will eject from out of the Midwest and into the Northeast on Wednesday. It may be enhanced by a developing surface low off the coast of New England. Thursday, an upper-level system will pivot through New York and New England, delivering another dose of snow to portions of the region. The question with this setup over the two days is how much cold air will be available, which makes the forecast snowfall amounts somewhat uncertain.

Our exclusive Winter Watch graphic above shows where we have the highest probabilities for significant snow accumulations from Upstate New York to central and southern portions of New England (white shadings). A wintry mix of snow, sleet and freezing rain is possible from coastal Southern New England to northern Pennsylvania and southern New York (pink shadings).

As you can see on our snowfall accumulation forecast map below, the two days combined could deliver 6 to 12 inches of snow to northern New York and central portions of New England.

Post: #626

Everytime they predict rain or ice here the stores are sold out of bread, beer, and milk in under two hours. Whoever doesn't catch the news until later doesn't get sandwiches or toast or cereal for a few days.

Post: #627

I went to the market and stocked up on canned goods and my 10 year old went into immediate storm panic. "Mom. Why did you buy all these canned goods and water? Are we getting a storm?" Poor kid is scarred for life. It's raining a flood here today but supposed to be warm. Every damn time I look at the weather it changes.

Post: #628

It's snowing here. Wet heavy snow. Roads are not bad yet though. I'm sure drivetime will be a problem though. As much as I want to bitch, I can't really because we have had no real snow this year at all.

Post: #629

(02-29-2012 02:05 PM)ramseycat Wrote:  It's snowing here. Wet heavy snow. Roads are not bad yet though. I'm sure drivetime will be a problem though. As much as I want to bitch, I can't really because we have had no real snow this year at all.

Do you need a cup of cocoa with marshmallow?

Post: #630