Back to Libya...

[shitstorm]

Libyan rebel's story shows links to Taliban, Al Qaeda, NATO

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/17/...a-20110417

[username]

Something is going on with all of these Muslim countries having these "revolutions" and I suspect it's being manipulated by outside forces (as usual).

I actually agree. I think that we, probably the CIA and other covert operations, are trying to stir up unrest in the middle east. I think we might have done TOO good of a job though and it's spun outside of our control. I think we've probably helped stir up unrest in these countries and promoted the rebel factions (kind of like Reagan and the whole "tear down these walls" thing). But it's spiraled beyond anything that we can hope to control/assist. Big mess.

[Mohammed]

Just so rob/bob/mohammed knows.

I have you on ignore, I've got enough forum stalkers saying the same thing over and over again thank you.

Plus I was sick of scrolling through endless photos of a fat man in the desert and his motley crew of raghead associates.

[Lady Cop]

(CNN) -- Tim Hetherington, the esteemed photojournalist and an Oscar nominee for a gritty and harrowing documentary about the Afghan war, has been killed in the war-torn Libyan city of Misrata, according to the president of the agency that represented him.

Another journalist was seriously wounded but his or her identity was not disclosed. Panos Pictures, which employed Hetherington, confirmed that the photographer's family had been notified.

"We're still trying to figure out front lines or house (referring to where he was when killed)," said CSPR agency president Cathy Saypol. "The only thing we know is that he was hit by an RPG with the other guys."

His last Twitter entry appears to have been made on Tuesday: "In besieged Libyan city of Misrata. indiscriminate shelling by Qaddafi forces. No sign of NATO."

A British native, Hetherington was nominated for "Restrepo," a documentary film he co-directed with journalist Sebastian Junger that received an Academy Award nomination this year.

Hetherington spent eight years in West Africa and has reported on social and political issues worldwide, most notably the Liberian conflict.

He had gained wide fame for "Restrepo," which chronicles the deployment of a platoon of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan's Korengal Valley, according to the film's website.

[username]

Bummer.

Can we just bomb Gadhafi now and be done with this?

[Duchess]

I'm afraid that one day I'll hear that about Richard Engle, NBC's chief foreign correspondent. I'm in lust.

[Cracker]

(CNN) -- Tim Hetherington, the esteemed photojournalist and an Oscar nominee for a gritty and harrowing documentary about the Afghan war, has been killed in the war-torn Libyan city of Misrata, according to the president of the agency that represented him.

He had gained wide fame for "Restrepo," which chronicles the deployment of a platoon of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan's Korengal Valley, according to the film's website.

Damn, I just watched that movie last month.

Hate to hear it when journalists get killed.

[Lady Cop]

LIFE mag. slideshow, photographers killed in action:


http://www.life.com/gallery/59511/photog...on#index/0

[Lady Cop]

this man has died of wounds suffered at the same time.

Chris Hondros, 41, a photojournalist working for Getty Images, was killed in Libya today in an attack that also killed Tim Hetherington.

[shitstorm]

I just watched Restrepo on National Geographic channel. It's ironic that someone could make it out of Afghanistan and get killed in Libya.

Really great documentary and shows, to me anyway, how futile this war is and what a waste of lives. Very sad.

[Duchess]

how futile this war is and what a waste of lives. Very sad.

Yes, it is sad & futile. I don't know why our country has to involve itself in every fuckin' dispute that arises outside of the US. The people in charge need to start minding their own damn business. Nobody likes a bully & that's exactly what we are. I'm so sick of this bullshit, I don't support any of it. If soldiers came here & did what our soldiers do in other countries I would hope that the people here would fight back the same way the citizens of those countries do. Everyone here gets all horrified when our people are killed & maimed, are you people saying it's wrong for them to fight back? Fuck you, they have every right to, it's their country.

[Cynical Ninja]

Yes, it is sad & futile. I don't know why our country has to involve itself in every fuckin' dispute that arises outside of the US. The people in charge need to start minding their own damn business. Nobody likes a bully & that's exactly what we are. I'm so sick of this bullshit, I don't support any of it. If soldiers came here & did what our soldiers do in other countries I would hope that the people here would fight back the same way the citizens of those countries do. Everyone here gets all horrified when our people are killed & maimed, are you people saying it's wrong for them to fight back? Fuck you, they have every right to, it's their country.[/i][/size]

You liberal pussy and your god damn common sense!, you are a coward you have no honour!, Hawk!, hawk! bile, spittle, bile etc.

[Duchess]

If anyone calls me a liberal because I think it's fair for the "enemy" to fight back I'll call them a stupid fucker, only a moron will think it's wrong to fight for their country.

[Cynical Ninja]

But the people fighting for their country are brown they don't speak English and they aren't Christians.

Therefore they are legitimate targets you cowardly, liberal pussy with no honour! HAWK! HAWK! bile, spittle, bile etc ad nauseum.

[Duchess]

Bring it on. I'm ready for them.

[BlueTiki]

If soldiers came here & did what our soldiers do in other countries I would hope that the people here would fight back the same way the citizens of those countries do. [/i][/size]

Hopefully with guns. Fight back with guns.

I'd hate to resort to sticks, stones and name calling.

[IMaDick]

I wonder who the rebels would be in this country? Conservatives? teaparty? liberals?

and then I wonder who the soldiers would be here to help? the rebels? the government? would it be to help execute a regime change or for squashing civil uprising?

[shitstorm]

Afghanis are not "brown". I know the self loathing "I'm white, I'm guilty" internationalists love to use the "brown people" garbage, even though it does not apply.

Anyway ....

Duchess, did you see the documentary? If not, I'll bet National Geographic will repeat it. In one scene a bomber was called in to target a mud hut that was suspected of harboring Taliban. After the strike, when our guys went in, there were severely injured (not sure if any killed) tiny kids. They did recover some Taliban stuff, but not much.

[Duchess]

Duchess, did you see the documentary? If not, I'll bet National Geographic will repeat it. In one scene a bomber was called in to target a mud hut that was suspected of harboring Taliban. After the strike, when our guys went in, there were severely injured (not sure if any killed) tiny kids. They did recover some Taliban stuff, but not much.

No, I didn't but I'm not surprised, I know awful things happen, wedding parties have been bombed & gatherings of people who were basically living their lives. It's the horror of collateral damages in a war. I'm not prepared to lay the blame at the feet of the soldiers though, soldiers do what they are told, that's what good soldiers do, they obey the command, also the bad guys are known far & wide as to hide behind innocents, that's a fact. I'm not a tree huggin' liberal or a sheep who blindly follows because it's the right thing to do, I have my own opinions but first & foremost I support our soldiers.

[shitstorm]

I support them, too, and I cried watching what was happening to them. They're so young and just as duped as those who support sending them there to die. They have no idea they're cannon fodder in the grand chess game of globalist interventionists who are trying to secure new frontiers for corporations. They think they're fighting for freedom or some other bunch of bullshit. Of course, once there, you fight for your life and your buddies' lives and nothing more. It becomes about revenge when a friend is killed and then getting out alive. Naturally, the puppet masters know that and they can count on any soldier to take it personally when his live is at risk. The psychology of how elite sociopaths get others to do their dirty work is something to behold.