Social Security - The Fed's Ponzi Scheme

[IMaDick]

Period.

The bottom line.

women by a huge majority voted for obama, this alone should disqualify them from SS, as well as other activities such as voting in national elections.

I have to believe there was a reason why they were excluded to begin with, this is probably why.

They voted for black snake and forget about everything else.

[Duchess]

Shit for brains.

[IMaDick]

Shit for brains.

Yep that's what I figure they showed.

I never would have thought a woman would agree with me.

[Cracker]

Oops, I should have included Cracker's comment in that quote too.

Any woman who has spent her entire life raising productive, responsible human beings & has managed a home is as deserving of that money as all of us that went out and made our own way in the world...Period.

Because you worked for your husband. Sorry, that's about the size of it. If he didn't pay you, you weren't doing it right. You worked for him while he worked to make the money. One check.

Maybe the lovely children can cut mommy in on their earnings if they are the thankful sort. If you raised fuckers, no money for you!

[Cracker]

They voted for black snake and forget about everything else.

Did you see the picture in the nudity section? Women voted for black elephant. hahahaha

[Duchess]

I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. It wasn't that long ago in here that I argued the other side.

I've pretty much always known that by the time I'm eligible for SS it won't be there so I have to have other things I can count on...my fuckin' Disney stock better sky rocket.

[IMaDick]

I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. It wasn't that long ago in here that I argued the other side.

I've pretty much always known that by the time I'm eligible for SS it won't be there so I have to have other things I can count on...my fuckin' Disney stock better sky rocket.

In a poor economy the first thing to go are vacations and fun.

Disney is fucked.

[Lady Cop]

i lost a HUGE wad of cash on Euro disney before it opened. everyone had high hopes for it. it left a very bad taste in my mouth. disney really fucked up with that park. they had no clue to European mentality and mindset.

[Duchess]

In a poor economy the first thing to go is vacations and fun.

Disney is fucked.

Do you see the poor economy lasting the rest of my life?

[Cracker]

I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. It wasn't that long ago in here that I argued the other side.

I've pretty much always known that by the time I'm eligible for SS it won't be there so I have to have other things I can count on...my fuckin' Disney stock better sky rocket.

I don't really care if little old ladies get social security if they were married. They lived in an income-producing household. They SHOULD get any remaining benefits from any man they were married to, at least a cut.

That isn't why the system is non-sustaining. It is in the red because of all the fuckers who are "disabled" who never put into the system. We can't afford that. For every two or three working households in America, we are supporting one household that have never worked and one household who is unemployed/receiving welfare benefits.

I really would stop bitching if I got to keep 80% of what I make. That is a decent sum and I wouldn't resent the 20% given to help defend this country, pay for improvements and upkeep and help someone out a bit. But that isn't the case. If you add up ALL the taxes we pay (income, payroll, gas, purchases, housing, transportation, etc) I am living off less than half what I make. That's bullshit. That's too much.

Fuck fat people or depressed people. Get off your ass and get to work.

[HairOfTheDog]

If the breadwinner divorces his/her spouse after at least 10 years of marriage and the ex does not remarry, the breadwinner, the ex spouse and the current spouse can all collect benefits from the breadwinner. No limit to the number of spouses who can collect off the same breadwinner and long as they were married for 10 years, been divorced for at least 2 years, and are at least 62 years old. The breadwinner's benefits are not impacted by the number of others collecting on his/her social security. This is my understanding of the written social security protocols. I work in elder care and know a few elderly women who have been living with men for years but won't marry them because their spousal social security benefits would be less with the new man than the ex's, and they'd have to be married for 10 years before they could collect from the current partner's social security anyway.

In 1955, the divorce rate was about 26%. In 2005, it was closer to 50% (data differs slightly depending on source, but same ballpark).

I am no expert, but trying to understand some of the social factors that have all sides agreeing that the current program is limited in its longevity. None of the current candidates claim that we should just keep doing what we're doing now and everything will be fine. Some politicians and pundits claim the system is viable, but needs to be reformed to today's social climate or managed by the states instead of the Fed. Others say the system was based on a flawed foundation (Ponzi Scheme or otherwise) from the start. Either way, if dramatic changes in how many people would be contributing and how many would be collecting (and for how long) were not estimated and factored into the original plan, it's no wonder the current program is nearing breaking point.

Wish I had more time to research it in depth. I'm just trying to uderstand the problems in order to evaluate which proposed solution makes the most sense. It will be interesting to see more details as to how various candidates attempt to address the issue in a way that doesn't pull the rug out from under senior citizens while also taking into account young and middle aged workers. Tough issue, imo.

[IMaDick]

In a poor economy the first thing to go is vacations and fun.

Disney is fucked.

Do you see the poor economy lasting the rest of my life?

who knows? what date have you set for the last day of your life ? If it's before the next 20 years have elapsed it's possible.

[Duchess]

If it's before the next 20 years have elapsed it's possible.

Hell no. I don't think I've lived half my life yet.

[Duchess]

...but I could die the next time I have to drive the DC beltway so my death may come sooner than I think.

[Cracker]

If the breadwinner divorces his/her spouse after at least 10 years of marriage and the ex does not remarry, the breadwinner, the ex spouse and the current spouse can all collect benefits from the breadwinner. No limit to the number of spouses who can collect off the same breadwinner and long as they were married for 10 years, been divorced for at least 2 years, and are at least 62 years old. The breadwinner's benefits are not impacted by the number of others collecting on his/her social security. This is my understanding of the written social security protocols. I work in elder care and know a few elderly women who have been living with men for years but won't marry them because their spousal social security benefits would be less with the new man than the ex's, and they'd have to be married for 10 years before they could collect from the current partner's social security anyway.

In 1955, the divorce rate was about 26%. In 2005, it was closer to 50% (data differs slightly depending on source, but same ballpark).

I am no expert, but trying to understand some of the social factors that have all sides agreeing that the current program is limited in its longevity. None of the current candidates claim that we should just keep doing what we're doing now and everything will be fine. Some politicians and pundits claim the system is viable, but needs to be reformed to today's social climate or managed by the states instead of the Fed. Others say the system was based on a flawed foundation (Ponzi Scheme or otherwise) from the start. Either way, if dramatic changes in how many people would be contributing and how many would be collecting (and for how long) were not estimated and factored into the original plan, it's no wonder the current program is nearing breaking point.

Wish I had more time to research it in depth. I'm just trying to uderstand the problems in order to evaluate which proposed solution makes the most sense. It will be interesting to see more details as to how various candidates attempt to address the issue in a way that doesn't pull the rug out from under senior citizens while also taking into account young and middle aged workers. Tough issue, imo.

Intelligent post.

I don't know the answer, or all the problems. I just want my money back. I would like to retire early, and that will do the trick.

I don't want the government involved in my life or my future. Just protect me and I'll take care of the rest. They fuck it all up when they get too involved. I don't trust our legislators and controllers. They are bad with money.

[IMaDick]

Put the money from the elected officials health care and retirement plans that they have now that we are paying for back into the SS account, when all the money has been replaced that they took out of it we can talk about re instating some benefits for them, until then they get the same shit we get and all that money we were spending on the crooks goes back to those they stole from, it's called restitution, it happens everyday in this country.