GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[sally]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

[F.U.]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

Insert pic of FU shaking his head in disbelief.

[Midwest Spy]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

Just read the moronic statement from dad who killed his son at the gun range.

In essence he said, "Don't blame the gun. I could have just as easily killed him by giving him an improper medicinal dose", blah, blah, blah.

Carry on everybody.

Just another accidental gun death.

[Duchess]

That's a goddamn blase attitude from the father.

[Donovan]

Once again I am conflicted, but essentially the dad is probably right, the world is crammed full of stupid ways to die and he wouldn't be any less dead if the kid had got into the cleaning products or fell in the pool or got killed in a car mishap...I think back to the near misses in my own child's life and how they haunt me even though he survived my witless parenting in those early years. That guy must be sick with what happened, but people will pile on. It is our way.

[Midwest Spy]

Once again I am conflicted, but essentially the dad is probably right, the world is crammed full of stupid ways to die and he wouldn't be any less dead if the kid had got into the cleaning products or fell in the pool or got killed in a car mishap...I think back to the near misses in my own child's life and how they haunt me even though he survived my witless parenting in those early years. That guy must be sick with what happened, but people will pile on. It is our way.

Do you think I'm piling on by not comprehending how he thinks accidentally shooting his son is the same as somehow letting him get into the rat poison in the attic, or if he were hit by a car?

I gave you more credit than that.

[Donovan]

Not saying you're piling on at all. Everyone here I think knows my feelings on gun control etc, I just have tremendous empathy for people who lose a child in any accidental fashion, because I cannot think of a punishment that would be worse.

[Blindgreed1]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

Just read the moronic statement from dad who killed his son at the gun range.

In essence he said, "Don't blame the gun. I could have just as easily killed him by giving him an improper medicinal dose", blah, blah, blah.

Carry on everybody.

Just another accidental gun death.

As I understand it this was a freak accident, but i'm basing that opinion on the story and not a paraphrasing.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/sfl-...story.html

[sally]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

Insert pic of FU shaking his head in disbelief.

What?

[F.U.]

Well maybe they should replace the little girl with the father who shot his son dead. They could make the motto " Properly trained adults don't have accidents".

Insert pic of FU shaking his head in disbelief.

What?

Really ?

[Duchess]

Isn't the reality that this was a very stupid mistake, a dumbass move that a novice would make?

I don't like calling these types of incidents, accidents. Accidents don't happen if you're handling a gun properly, they just don't.

[Carsman]

It seems the father showed his son exactly what not to do.
Costly lesson.

[F.U.]

I don't like calling these types of incidents, accidents. Accidents don't happen if you're handling a gun properly, they just don't.

Nor do I. I call them negligent discharges.

[Donovan]

To be fair, most accidents involving other things like cars etc, happen because someone was handling a dangerous item unsafely. Distracted drivers, do it yourself chainsaw operators, would-be YouTube celebrities with fireworks: you trace back any horrible accident far enough and you're almost certain to find somebody doing something stupid. Doesn't make them less negligent to call them accidents or vice versa. Preventable accidents can be the worst kind to have to face the consequences of.

[HairOfTheDog]

^ Thoroughly asinine.

As sally alluded, there are dozens of stories posted in this thread about adults 'accidentally' shooting people, including their own children.

Some of those accidental shootings were at the hands of trained police officers, firearms instructors, and 'responsible gun-owner parents'.

The assertion that kids who've had firearm education are somehow immune to gun accidents, or 'negligent discharges', is effin' moronic and disputed by the many stories of shootings at the hands of educated children (also posted in this thread).

[Maggot]

There are plenty of kids that when driving tractors or lawn mowers have "accidents" I don't consider driving while texting and getting into an accident an accident. I would call it negligence. Same with guns, the guy had an itch and he scratched it with a gun in his hand, it fired and ricocheted off the ceiling and hit the child. That was a case of not paying attention and letting down his guard. A stupid move.

[Midwest Spy]

Guns are meant to kill living things.

Cars, tractors, toasters, bicycles are not.

Even today, most people don't get it.

[HairOfTheDog]

There are plenty of kids that when driving tractors or lawn mowers have "accidents" I don't consider driving while texting and getting into an accident an accident. I would call it negligence. Same with guns, the guy had an itch and he scratched it with a gun in his hand, it fired and ricocheted off the ceiling and hit the child. That was a case of not paying attention and letting down his guard. A stupid move.

What does that have to do with the assertion that kids who've had gun education are immune to unintentionally shooting themselves and/or others, Maggot? Are you saying there's no such thing as a gun "accident", only gun "negligence", and agreeing that the meme is moronic?

[Maggot]

I'm saying that no matter how well trained someone is there will be accidents. Tractors, guns, household chemicals all kinds of things. Guns are needed for protection and when that right is taken away everyone will be at the mercy of criminals and zealots. I really don't care what the current flavor of conscious is or what the powers that be try to use to gain votes or control. Its my right and that's that.

[HairOfTheDog]

I'm not a power that bes and have no desire to gain votes or control.

But, your comment is just a statement of the obvious.

When I see a doctor post a photo of a teen carefully holding a bunch of prescription opiode bottles, below the slogan, "properly trained kids don't have accidents", I'll consider it equally moronic.