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Hey Crash & Aussie,

Have you ever seen or heard about these stinging trees? Sounds
horrible!


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Researcher Les Moore, alongside a Gympie-Gympie stinging plant. Image Credit: Brian Cassey

Gympie Gympie: Once stung, never forgotten

MARINA HURLEY'S DEDICATION TO science was sorely tested during the three years she spent in Queensland’s Atherton Tableland studying stinging trees. The entomologist and ecologist’s first encounter with the Gympie-Gympie stinging tree produced a sneezing fit and left her eyes and nose running for hours. Even protective particle masks and welding gloves could not spare her several subsequent stings – one requiring hospitalisation – but that was nothing compared with the severe allergy she developed.

“Being stung is the worst kind of pain you can imagine - like being burnt with hot acid and electrocuted at the same time,” said Marina, who at the time was a postgraduate student at James Cook University investigating the herbivores that eat stinging trees. “The allergic reaction developed over time, causing extreme itching and huge hives that eventually required steroid treatment. At that point my doctor advised that I should have no further contact with the plant and I didn’t object.”

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She is not alone in her allergic reaction to this innocent-looking plant – one of six stinging-tree species found in Australia, and one of the most poisonous plants here – or her dramatic accounts. Proliferating in rainforest clearings, along creek-lines and small tracks, the Gympie-Gympie stinging tree (Dendrocnide excelsa) has long been a hazard for foresters, surveyors and timber workers – some of whom are today supplied with respirators, thick gloves and anti-histamine tablets as a precaution. More recently, the hairs covering the plant’s stems, leaves and fruits have also posed a danger to scientists and bushwalkers.

Gympie-Gympie stinging tree history
North Queensland road surveyor A.C. Macmillan was among the first to document the effects of a stinging tree, reporting to his boss in 1866 that his packhorse “was stung, got mad, and died within two hours”. Similar tales abound in local folklore of horses jumping in agony off cliffs and forestry workers drinking themselves silly to dull the intractable pain.

Writing to Marina in 1994, Australian ex-serviceman Cyril Bromley described falling into a stinging tree during mili­tary training on the tableland in World War II. Strapped to a hospital bed for three weeks and administered all manner of unsuccessful treatments, he was sent “as mad as a cut snake” by the pain. Cyril also told of an officer shooting himself after using a stinging-tree leaf for “toilet purposes”.

He’s had too many stings to count but Ernie Rider will never forget the day in 1963 that he was slapped in the face, arms and chest by a stinging tree. “I remember it feeling like there were giant hands trying to squash my chest,” he said. “For two or three days the pain was almost unbearable; I couldn’t work or sleep, then it was pretty bad pain for another fortnight or so. The stinging persisted for two years and recurred every time I had a cold shower.”

Now a senior conservation officer with the Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service, Ernie said he’s not experienced anything like the pain during 44 years work in the bush. “There’s nothing to rival it; it’s 10 times worse than anything else – scrub ticks, scrub itch and itchy-jack sting included. Stinging trees are a real and present danger.”

Gympie-Gympie: stings like acid
So swollen was Les Moore after being stung across the face several years ago that he said he resembled Mr Potato Head.

“I think I went into anaphylactic shock and it took days for my sight to recover,” said Les, a scientific officer with the CSIRO Division of Wildlife and Ecology in Queensland, who was near Bartle Frere (North Peak) studying cassowaries when disaster struck. “Within minutes the initial stinging and burning intensified and the pain in my eyes was like someone had poured acid on them. My mouth and tongue swelled up so much that I had trouble breathing. It was debilitating and I had to blunder my way out of the bush.”

It was perhaps this rapid and savage reaction that inspired the British Army’s interest in the more sinister applications of the Gympie-Gympie stinging tree in 1968. That year, the Chemical Defence Establishment at Porton Down (a top-secret laboratory that developed chemical weapons) contracted Alan Seawright, then a Professor of Pathology at the University of Queensland, to dispatch stinging-tree specimens.

“Chemical warfare is their work, so I could only assume that they were investigating its potential as a biological weapon,” said Alan, now an honorary research consultant to the University of Queensland’s National Research Centre in Environmental Toxicology. “I never heard anything more, so I guess we’ll never know.”

Source: Australian Geographic Apr - Jun 2008

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Gympie is also a town in Queensland up the North Coast. Not my scene and never heard of those gympie-gympie stinging trees. I try and steer clear of the bush and stick to the bar.
I've heard of the stinging trees in north QLD, but I've never had the misfortune of coming across one. I have met people who've been stung by the trees. One guy I worked with in the northern territory reckoned he'd rather be stung by an irukandji (box) jellyfish than a stinging tree.
Glad you have both been spared the sting of the Gympie. Stay safe.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that those Gympie-Gympie trees in Oz are more menacing than those talking trees in Oz (the latter's bark was reportedly worse than their bite).

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Maybe they're of the same family? The apple never falls far...

Anyway, unless they turn over a new leaf, I'd avoid the Gympie-Gympies at all costs.


Haha! Clever bitch.
Jesus Christ.

Even the fucking trees want to hurt you down there.
Certainly not a place for the weak kneed or limp wristed.[/i]
(01-24-2014, 05:26 PM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]Certainly not a place for the weak kneed or limp wristed.[/i]

Sure it is, they just wait for the big gay pride carnivals they have all over Australia every year.

Then its nothing but the week kneed and limp wristed! “Coo-ee! Do you fancy a wander around my outback girlfriend? Bonza!”
(01-25-2014, 12:54 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Sure it is, they just wait for the big gay pride carnivals they have all over Australia every year.

Your lack of knowledge of this country abounds..or it's just you...what's that favourite saying of yours? ....talking out your loose sphincter again? Yeah that's it..

There's actually one. Once a year. In one place.

And good on them. They've done a huge amount of work for equal rights for same sex couples in the past 30 years. It's so big now, people travel from 50 countries to be a part of it.

I'm not that way inclined, but I'm proud to live in a country that gives people the opportunity to express themselves for their cause in a way that does not harm others.

And as for limp waisted and weak kneed; I'd like to see you front up to the Mardi Gras and call some of them that.. haha

But we all know you weren't being serious were you? I mean to have a go at the gays would just make you a hypocrite based on your other comments in Mock regarding same sex marriage and gay people in general. You just used it as a vehicle to give good old Australia another tap on the shoulder... Oh haang on, that's still hypocritical..
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I doubt hardly anyone on here gives a flying fuck about this pissing match you two have going on here about whose country is better.

Here's a simple question for the whole forum.

If you got an all expense paid vacation to either Australia or the UK, where would you choose to go?

I'm betting the Gold Coast wins by a landslide.

Australia is my obvious choice. There's no comparison.
Sorry I forgot to put lol again so the morons could tell I was joking!

As for having a go at Ausland making me a hypocrite? Pot I'd like to introduce you to kettle! You talk shit about Great Britain all the time which is actually even more hypocritcal because without Great Britain your precious country wouldn't even exist!

Your welcome by the way, you bald aussie twat!
(01-25-2014, 04:11 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: [ -> ]I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I doubt hardly anyone on here gives a flying fuck about this pissing match you two have going on here about whose country is better.

Here's a simple question for the whole forum.

If you got an all expense paid vacation to either Australia or the UK, where would you choose to go?

I'm betting the Gold Coast wins by a landslide.

Australia is my obvious choice. There's no comparison.

Of course its an obvious choice.

If crash said he lived in hell you would say you would rather vacation in hell than come to the UK.

Its not a real opinion its all pure and meaningless personal bias.
(01-25-2014, 04:11 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry I forgot to put lol again so the morons could tell I was joking!

As for having a go at Ausland making me a hypocrite? Pot I'd like to introduce you to kettle! You talk shit about Great Britain all the time which is actually even more hypocritcal because without Great Britain your precious country wouldn't even exist!

Your welcome by the way, you bald aussie twat!

No, you just missed the point again. I said you using the gay mardigras as a vehicle to sledge Australia was hypocritical, based on your previous supporting comments of gay issues in Mock. Once again though it went over your head, you knew you were clutching straws and threw a personal insult at the end...good work.

lol <--- there's an 'lol' for you, so you don't get confused Smiley_emoticons_wink
(01-25-2014, 04:16 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-25-2014, 04:11 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: [ -> ]I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I doubt hardly anyone on here gives a flying fuck about this pissing match you two have going on here about whose country is better.

Here's a simple question for the whole forum.

If you got an all expense paid vacation to either Australia or the UK, where would you choose to go?

I'm betting the Gold Coast wins by a landslide.

Australia is my obvious choice. There's no comparison.

Of course its an obvious choice.

If crash said he lived in hell you would say you would rather vacation in hell than come to the UK.

Its not a real opinion its all pure and meaningless personal bias.


Since I believe there is a hell, I'm pretty sure I would want to go to the UK instead.

You brits are stuffy, pompous stuck up twats. You're the perfect example.
(01-25-2014, 05:20 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: [ -> ]You brits are stuffy, pompous stuck up twats. You're the perfect example.

I'm not stuffy, in fact I'm probably the most open minded person here.

The other stuff? Meh, its hard not to develop a superiority complex when you know for a fact you are superior.