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Would you renounce your religion to save your life? I would imagine that entails how you live your life and how you conduct yourself so that would be a consideration.
Seeing as how I don't have a religion that wouldn't apply to me. Would I renounce my faith? I would never deny my faith in my heart. But I might say it aloud to protect myself and my family.
I think many people would.

I began thinking about this after reading that ISIS got their hands on a group of people who choose to be executed rather than renounce their faith. I find that rather retarded and admirable at the same time.
I'm agnostic, but I'd turn into whatever you want me to be if it meant keeping my head off a kebob.
(08-15-2014, 07:20 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]Would you renounce your religion to save your life? I would imagine that entails how you live your life and how you conduct yourself so that would be a consideration.

I'd lie to save my life.

But, I wouldn't live a lie to save my life unless I thought the new life was one worth living.

Sure, I'd give up Scientology and live the way of the Wicca if my life depended upon it, for example.

But, I'd not give up Scientology in order to live a life that required me to have a clitorectomy, marry a jihadist killer, and grow underarm hair and a beard like aussie's (but I'd do all of that if I had dependent children or to save someone I love).
(08-15-2014, 10:08 PM)sally Wrote: [ -> ]I'm agnostic, but I'd turn into whatever you want me to be if it meant keeping my head off a kebob.



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(08-16-2014, 12:34 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]I'd lie to save my life.

But, I wouldn't live a lie to save my life unless I thought the new life was one worth living.

Sure, I'd give up Scientology and live the way of the Wicca if my life depended upon it, for example.

But, I'd not give up Scientology in order to live a life that required me to have a clitorectomy, marry a jihadist killer, and grow underarm hair and a beard like aussie's (but I'd do all of that if I had dependent children or to save someone I love).

You really don't need to bring me into your sordid backsliding from Scientology. Keep my name and any association out of it. The truth is, you people really have no idea what is going on down under.
I was just using what you told us about yourself to illustrate my point, aussie.

I could have just as easily said that "I wouldn't grow a beard like one of those middle-aged naturalist ladies from the 1970s hand-held beta-recorded amateur porn videos". Same diff and I wouldn't have offended you. I'm sorry.

Besides -- I wouldn't think any less or more of you regardless of what's really going down down under.

But, I can't speak for my more devout friends.

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You have a grotesque distorted view of reality HoTD, but if that is the way you see it, then that's fine with me.

Addit: Are you a member of the scientology crowd?
(08-16-2014, 08:35 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: [ -> ]You have a grotesque distorted view of reality HoTD, but if that is the way you see it, then that's fine with me.

I don't view your nether regions in any way -- you know I'm just playing.

(08-16-2014, 08:35 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: [ -> ]Addit: Are you a member of the scientology crowd?

Yeah, but a bit reluctantly at this point.

The Grand Vulcan Poobah has threatened to expose my warped sense of humor and grotesque view of reality all across this forum if I try to leave; it's like using my dark well-kept secrets to blackmail me into staying or something.

To be honest, I'm beginning to wonder if Scientology is really a sort of..........dare I say, cult.

Some days I miss my friends from my time at the Heaven's Gate commune.


Off call in 8 minutes 32. Have a good day, aussie.
Well, yes I would; I don't consider myself a religious person even though my mother drug me to church until I was 18(Presbyterian) and still have the Bible they presented me when they decided I was religious enough to belong to the Church. I believe in a higher power, but remain clueless about the gentleman known as God. I think my religion lies within my soul and dictates my behavior, I try not to judge unless I have walked in your shoes. I try to be understanding and treat people as I want to be treated. I don't always succeed and subsequently, think I am a sub-standard human being who still has a lot to learn about life.
I wouldn't change my "spirit" if it required beheading and killing others, if I bullied others into believing as I believe, or if I had to change the basic core of who I am....I must admit I have done my share of praying, sometimes for serious stuff, but more often I pray to win the lotto, reverse my illness, find Prince Charming, etc. In the end, if there is a God, I think you will be judged on how you treated others, not for how many days you spent in Church. And I believe he or she will forgive me for all the times I have been such a Bitch... I stood up last night and leg had gone to sleep so I fell and twisted ankle so now I can't walk and I have a swollen and bruised foot. Better due to ice pack, elevation, and ace bandage, but dang it hurt.....So, no guess wouldn't change religion to stay alive cuz you have to be true to yourself, but if I had to change to a Methodist, guess that would be o.k. if it would save my life.
(08-16-2014, 08:52 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-16-2014, 08:35 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: [ -> ]You have a grotesque distorted view of reality HoTD, but if that is the way you see it, then that's fine with me.

I don't view your nether regions in any way -- you know I'm just playing.
(08-16-2014, 08:35 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: [ -> ]Addit: Are you a member of the scientology crowd?

Yeah, but a bit reluctantly at this point.

The Grand Vulcan Poobah has threatened to expose my warped sense of humor and grotesque view of reality all across this forum if I try to leave; it's like using my dark well-kept secrets to blackmail me into staying or something.

To be honest, I'm beginning to wonder if Scientology is really a sort of..........dare I say, cult.

Some days I miss my friends from my time at the Heaven's Gate commune.


Off call in 8 minutes 32. Have a good day, aussie.

Yeah I know you are playing so am I, it's kind of like a game of intellectual tennis, but without the intellect when dealing with F2.

I know how you feel about leaving your cult, I miss banging my drum with the Hare Krisha bunch too. What a wacky crew we were, we had some fun times.
I wouldn't die for any sect of religion, but if someone had a gun to my head and said, "Say there is no God or I'll blow your head off," I'd probably tell him to go ahead and blow my head off.


I think you're smarter than that. C'mon!
(08-17-2014, 11:11 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
I think you're smarter than that. C'mon!
I'm smart as anything, but stubbornness runs in my family.

We all die sometime, only fun is choosing how to live. I wouldn't really get into the position where I'd give someone that power over my life, it's not like I have a death wish, but I don't negotiate with terrorists.
It's confirmed, you're retarded.
(08-17-2014, 06:23 PM)sally Wrote: [ -> ]It's confirmed, you're retarded.
cool. I'm not willing to change for the threat of death, but your harsh opinion of me... that's what really matters.
Nothing in the OP says that you're not allowed to lie and escape. But you go ahead and get your head cut off on principle, I'm sure god would be pleased.
Has nothing to do with God. I wouldn't disown my sports team for some crazy nut's whim. Where do you draw the line? Would you sell out your husbands life for your own?
Fuck yeah. I'm the better parent. The kids wouldn't even have any clean clothes for school.
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