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Striking For Minimum Wage Increase

For those fast food employees striking for $15 an hour, let’s do some math.
At $15 an hour 'Johnny Fry-Boy' would make $31,200 annually.
An E1 (Private) in the military makes $18,378.
An E5 (Sergeant) with 8 years of service only makes $35,067 annually.

So you're telling me, Sally McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much
as those kids who are getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile
environments, and putting their collective lives on the line every day
protecting your unskilled, sorry ass!!??

Here’s the deal, Baconator... you are working in a job designed for a kid
in high school who is learning how to work, and earning enough for gas,
and hanging out with his equally goofy high school pals. If you have
chosen this as your life-long profession...You have failed !!!

If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills!

$15 an hour is rather out of line that Mickey D's workers are looking for.
However, the current minimum of $7 to $8 per hour is rather low by today's standards. Working at Mickey D's, in many areas are the only jobs available, even for well educated people. Maybe they should be looking towards the $10 per hour rate which is somewhat more in line to commensurate with responsibilities. Mickey D's does need workers, and workers do need jobs, so . .

As a small business owner I think these $15 an hour minimum wage campaigns are a joke. I live in a very rural area, the nearest Walmart starts at $8.25 as do the local fast food restaurants. I pay my full time employees $12. an hour to start, part time help gets $10. My part timers are local tech school kids who work on weekends when we need the help, so they are intermittent employees.

What those pushing for $15. minimum wage don't address are those people who have worked their way up from the minimum but don't make the new minimum that they are asking for. If we raised minimum wage to $15., everyone who makes any amount under that number would have to be raised to $15. per law. If a front line supervisor is making $12. an hour now, once everyone is making $15. they would expect at least another $2. to $5. for their supervisory skills/position. That would put a front line supervisor (or any other person now making $3. to $7. over minimum wage) in the position of wanting more per hour since they will feel they should make more than minimum wage. Small businesses can't afford that huge increase in hourly wages for their employees unless they raise the costs of the goods and services they provide proportionately.

So lets break it down. I have 3 full time employees at $12. an hour. If they each work 40 hours per week, my costs go up $414 per week for their wages. ($3 per hour per employee plus 15% medicare and SS on the new total). Add in 2 part-timers (16 hours per week) at $5. increase and you have another $184. This means my business has to make $598. more per week just to keep up with the increase in employee wages, even though those employees aren't turning out more product/service. That's over $31,000 per year. It would mean my part-timers would be out of a job and unless I could charge more for our services I might have to let one of the full time employees go.

Perhaps McDonalds et al and the US federal government can afford this huge increase in wages for unskilled or semi-skilled labor, but most small businesses (49.2% of private sector employment) cannot absorb these costs without passing them on to the consumer-if they can absorb them at all.

Mostly this is just more about self entitled lazy fucks that just want to keep working a skate job without putting any more effort in but make more money.
OK, so McD is the only employer where you live, Fucking Move to where jobs are you lazy fuck, the rest of the world has been doing that forever.
Maybe if you had paid some more attention in school instead of seeing how much of an asshole you could possibly be, you would have some more book smarts, why do I need to pay for that?
Your taking up a kids job like posted above, you should expect a kids wages. Move on or shut up.

Here's how ya handle that, as a franchise business owner. Fuck the hourly wage....put everyone on salary, and work them all 60 hours a week. Can probably cut your workforce by 1/3, so it all washes in the end.

I hope the workers are open to a compromise and $15 is just the starting point. Personally, I don't believe they're wrong to ask for more and think $10.50, for example, would be fair.

I'd rather see those who work in the fast food industry at least making what's considered poverty level wages. And, as a consumer, I wouldn't bitch about paying a little more for the food to help the franchise owners cover the extra costs (though good owners of major chains make a huge profit anyway, I can see them not wanting to go from "huge" to just "healthy" profits-- I don't want to see employers being demotivated to continue or expand their businesses).

Aside from managers, fast food workers don't typically get full time schedules -- their employers don't want to pay the benefits associated with working 40 hours or more. People should be able to make more working for a living than staying home and collecting government assistance. Those who don't go to college and don't have a lot of employer choices should have that opportunity.

Anyway, I don't share the negative view of people who have a work ethic but aren't (for the most part) highly educated or skilled. I view people who want the government and tax payers to compensate them for not working more negatively. And, I think less of people who brand all others who'll take whatever job they can get to make a living as losers than I do of fast food employees who work as many hours (or jobs) as possible to try to make ends meet. Personally, I'll save my contempt for the free-loaders and thieves.

OK here is the thing..I have a 4 year degree, that did not come cheap. I have been at my job for almost 10 years now. Just LAST YEAR I got a raise to $13 an hour. I know I work for a not for profit agency, but still. When do I get to go on strike????

(10-13-2014, 08:22 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]I hope the workers are open to a compromise and $15 is just the starting point. Personally, I don't believe they're wrong to ask for more and think $10.50, for example, would be fair.

I'd rather see those who work in the fast food industry at least making what's considered poverty level wages. And, as a consumer, I wouldn't bitch about paying a little more for the food to help the franchise owners cover the extra costs (though good owners of major chains make a huge profit anyway, I can see them not wanting to go from "huge" to just "healthy" profits-- I don't want to see employers being demotivated to continue or expand their businesses).

Aside from managers, fast food workers don't typically get full time schedules -- their employers don't want to pay the benefits associated with working 40 hours or more. People should be able to make more working for a living than staying home and collecting government assistance. Those who don't go to college and don't have a lot of employer choices should have that opportunity.

Anyway, I don't share the negative view of people who have a work ethic but aren't (for the most part) highly educated or skilled. I view people who want the government and tax payers to compensate them for not working more negatively. And, I think less of people who brand all others who'll take whatever job they can get to make a living as losers than I do of fast food employees who work as many hours (or jobs) as possible to try to make ends meet. Personally, I'll save my contempt for the free-loaders and thieves.

And just where in the hell have you been??

They need to leave minimum wage alone.

Because the cost of living varies so much from state to state, it would be totally stupid to raise the wage across the board. Individual states, maybe, but country wide? No way.

This was years ago, but when we were living in GA our apartment was $350.00 a month. When we moved to NH, the cheapest place we could find was $700.00 a month-big difference in the Cost of living.

Down there, I could go to Rallies and get a burger, fries and soda for $2.00, up here it was 6.

If they raise the minimum wage-the cost of living is going to go up to reflect that. It's a no win situation.

(10-13-2014, 08:47 AM)QueenBee Wrote: [ -> ]OK here is the thing..I have a 4 year degree, that did not come cheap. I have been at my job for almost 10 years now. Just LAST YEAR I got a raise to $13 an hour. I know I work for a not for profit agency, but still. When do I get to go on strike????

You may not have to go on strike. If Micky D's workers get their way, you could get a $2 hr raise by going to work there for $15 an hour.

Until there is a college course on flipping burgers I think their shit outta luck.

(10-13-2014, 10:11 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]Until there is a college course on flipping burgers I think their shit outta luck.

They must have some training you would think. They need to be trained to "not let their sweat drip on the burgers" while flippin them!

I'm not paying $10 for a freakin cheeseburger.

That fries my nuggets.

I agree with HotD though that I have way more contempt for people who won't take just any job (ha! I almost typed Jon) because they're making more milking the system or it's "beneath them" or they're just too damn lazy.

(10-13-2014, 09:38 AM)thekid65 Wrote: [ -> ]And just where in the hell have you been??

Hi, Kid.

I had a visitor last week and have some family coming for a few days starting on Thursday -- running around a lot.

Plus, I'm short a manager at work for a while, so I've been wearing a couple more hats. Kinda sucks -- some days, I think I'd rather be flipping burgers for snobby assholes.

(10-14-2014, 09:27 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-13-2014, 09:38 AM)thekid65 Wrote: [ -> ]And just where in the hell have you been??

Hi, Kid.

I had a visitor last week and have some family coming for a few days starting on Thursday -- running around a lot.

Plus, I'm short a manager at work for a while, so I've been wearing a couple more hats. Kinda sucks -- some days, I think I'd rather be flipping burgers for snobby assholes.

Don't expect $15hr for flipping those burgers.

No movement at the Fed level -- States move forward separately

The fast food workers haven't succeeded in getting a federal wage of $15, but their efforts are credited for helping minimum-wage workers in 20 states to get raises effective January 1^st.



Minimum wage workers in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York (Dec. 31), Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington and West Virginia will all see their pay go up on Jan. 1. Minimum wage workers in Delaware and Minnesota are also expected to receive a pay hike in June and August 2015, respectively.

The upcoming wage hikes underscore the rift between congressional Republicans and the rest of the country when it comes to the minimum wage. The idea of raising the wage floor tends to poll extremely well, with at least two-thirds of respondents in most surveys supporting it, including many conservatives. Nevertheless, Congress hasn't authorized a federal minimum wage raise since 2009, with Republicans standing in the way of more recent efforts.

As of the new year, for the first time a majority of states -- 29, to be exact -- will have minimum wages higher than the federal level. Many of those states have chosen to tie their wage floors to an inflation index, guaranteeing that the state minimum wage will rise over time along with the cost of living.

The raises mark an accomplishment for fast-food workers involved in the union-backed Fight for $15 movement, who have effectively put a face to the low-wage workforce through their ongoing one-day strikes and protests.

Story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30...91432.html

If you want to earn a decent wage get a qualification or at least learn to type and use a computer.

15 dollars an hour minimum to put burgers and fries in a bag? Fuck off.