(02-23-2011, 01:40 PM)trixie Wrote: Since we're all bored here.. I found some more pics of Lisa. Don't think they have been posted here. If I'm not aloud to post this link, let me know so I can take it down..

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=1...id=2011306

i don't belong to fb, so i can't see the photos. could you download and post some? thanks!

(02-23-2011, 01:36 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 01:14 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 01:01 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 01:00 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 12:58 PM)broke331 Wrote: Perhaps the bad guys had a stun gun.

Possible, but LE ain't sayin too much at all, OMG I wish they would! I have myself on every update email for this case on the web!

i'll have it before those day-late dollar-short alerts.

FIRST PLACE I OPEN WHEN I TURN MY COMPUTER ON..M O C K!!

Me too! My sister says I'm obsessed with this case. Gee, ya think.

Seriously though, I'm just like you all. I just really want to see the people that did this horrendous crime punished! I have faith though that they will eventually catch them, sooner then later hopefully.

Yea, I've been told that I'm obsessed too. I can't help it though!

(02-23-2011, 12:48 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: I think they punched holes in the wall because this was what was quoted:
"There is a kitchen with an island and an open eating area that went into an open family room," he told the Blade. "That was not ransacked, but you could tell there was a fight that ensued there. Plants were knocked over. Things were broken and knocked over, but upstairs, Mary Beth and Jeff's room was ransacked to the point where it looked like a TV show. All the drawers were out, and they had punched holes in the walk-in closet looking for a safe that never existed. There was no safe."

How did the uncle come to the conclusion the perps were looking for a safe...was it from rumors that JC told people about there being a safe combined with holes being "punched" in the walls, presumedly by one's fist given the terminology used? IDK it seems like there's more insight to that claim, of which the public has not been made aware...

(02-23-2011, 01:35 PM)broke331 Wrote: And as far as punch holes in the walls,who in the hell would put a safe in the wall, drywall over it. How would they get to it.

Hahah...that's so true...What bug dummies those perps were but at the same time I didn't even think about that so what does that say about me???:O

(02-23-2011, 01:43 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 01:35 PM)broke331 Wrote: And as far as punch holes in the walls,who in the hell would put a safe in the wall, drywall over it. How would they get to it.

Hahah...that's so true...What bug dummies those perps were but at the same time I didn't even think about that so what does that say about me???:O

Excellent point, IMO sounds more like a struggle of some sort was insued in the master bedroom

(02-23-2011, 11:42 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 11:39 AM)trixie Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 11:13 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 11:09 AM)trixie Wrote: I had a dream last night that they arrested someone finally. Let's hope that comes true! Although, I did fall asleep listening to my police scanner...

We're all going crazy in here, we need something! We're either going over the exact same things or making up the craziest scenarios.

I have had several dreams about this case! I also am finding myself a little scared to be home alone at night! We've always locked our doors, but anytime I heard a sound or thought I saw a shadow out a window last night I couldn't help but think of this case! Just another reason LE needs to give us some info!

But, last night I heard on the police scanner that some woman's husband was out of town and she heard something on her roof and wanted someone to check it out. Made me laugh cause I could picture myself doing the same thing... I'm a chicken, especially right now, even though I don't think is random in the slightest.

It wasn't me I swear! My husband was gone and I was alone with our 2 year old son. I kept hearing sounds but kept blaming it on the ice! As long as I blame it on something I feel better!

I agree that it's not random. A lot of people here have good ideas on what went down or who did it, and even though I'm not fully convinced on any one, I do believe they knew the killers and this was planned. BUT I do often wonder "well if the people that did this aren't getting caught, maybe they think they can get away with it again and start doing random robberies/murders". You just never know!

WOW. Planned Murder of such young people. I can not even imagine
who, what why. And what type person/people would sit around and
talk about it seriously, let alone do it. It is inconceivable to me.

(02-23-2011, 01:42 PM)curious Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 12:48 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: I think they punched holes in the wall because this was what was quoted:
"There is a kitchen with an island and an open eating area that went into an open family room," he told the Blade. "That was not ransacked, but you could tell there was a fight that ensued there. Plants were knocked over. Things were broken and knocked over, but upstairs, Mary Beth and Jeff's room was ransacked to the point where it looked like a TV show. All the drawers were out, and they had punched holes in the walk-in closet looking for a safe that never existed. There was no safe."

How did the uncle come to the conclusion the perps were looking for a safe...was it from rumors that JC told people about there being a safe combined with holes being "punched" in the walls, presumedly by one's fist given the terminology used? IDK it seems like there's more insight to that claim, of which the public has not been made aware...

i believe i read that when they were questioning people several of them asked "did they get the safe?" "did they find the safe?" and such. can't remember where that came from though... i thought it was something the uncle said in the same article but i really can't be sure. in this article it says, "sources say clarke was bragging about a safe lisa's parents kept in the house."
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7961012

(02-23-2011, 12:35 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 12:30 PM)toledoarea Wrote: Why does everyone think Mr. Z is some badass? This man, Johnny, he was fighting for his life. As well as his girlfriend Lisa. I'll tell ya what. I'd bet every penny I had that Mr. Z and his pregnant bitch aren't gonna come in MY house, subdue me, duct tape my hands behind my back and my girlfriends hands, and place bags over our heads and kill us. It's not gonna happen. There is NO WAY this 17 yr old strung out on drugs, mal-nutritioned punk is gonna overtake a 21 yr old man who is fighting for his life. And if you do believe that, then obviously you've never been in a fight before.

I agree with that & have thought that all along. When one knows their life is at stake one does not go quietly, I don't care what popular opinion is regarding that. I'm fighting to the death & you're going to know I gave it my best shot.

I also do not believe that Z could be capable of this crime. He's a 17-yr old punk that probably wasn't even a match for Lisa judging by pictures. I think he rode along with Tiffany while she played her role because she didn't want to be alone and probably promised him a bonus for going along with her (bonus being a few oxys, of course).

(02-23-2011, 01:39 PM)Spalding Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 01:35 PM)broke331 Wrote: And as far as punch holes in the walls,who in the hell would put a safe in the wall, drywall over it. How would they get to it.

Good point. Why also would anybody keep $100k in cash at their house?

Someone in my hood had $100K stolen from their house during a home invasion a few years ago. The family was muslim and aparantly they didn't ever use banks. My cousin (who works at a bank) said they have a whole separate system for dealing with some of their clients of different cultures, some can't pay interest or can't earn interest or some shit like that.

(02-23-2011, 01:42 PM)curious Wrote:

(02-23-2011, 12:48 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: I think they punched holes in the wall because this was what was quoted:
"There is a kitchen with an island and an open eating area that went into an open family room," he told the Blade. "That was not ransacked, but you could tell there was a fight that ensued there. Plants were knocked over. Things were broken and knocked over, but upstairs, Mary Beth and Jeff's room was ransacked to the point where it looked like a TV show. All the drawers were out, and they had punched holes in the walk-in closet looking for a safe that never existed. There was no safe."

How did the uncle come to the conclusion the perps were looking for a safe...was it from rumors that JC told people about there being a safe combined with holes being "punched" in the walls, presumedly by one's fist given the terminology used? IDK it seems like there's more insight to that claim, of which the public has not been made aware...

I heard that all the "kids" they were questioning were asking if they got the safe. That is how they found out JC was telling his tall tales.

   

(02-23-2011, 01:40 PM)trixie Wrote: Since we're all bored here.. I found some more pics of Lisa. Don't think they have been posted here. If I'm not aloud to post this link, let me know so I can take it down..

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=1...id=2011306

Nice find, a couple of them are kind of eerie, don't you think? These two in especially.

I hope this works..

More..

(02-23-2011, 10:28 AM)kfran Wrote: I'd still like to hear from the people that were watching the Pro-Bowl w/Johnny. According to Maytee's interview w/Jane Valez... Johnny told his friends that he had people coming over that night. Which is interesting because according to Tiffany, Johnny & Lisa invited her over during the 11pm phone conversations. So I call BS on what Tiffany was actually talking w/Johnny about.

The people that Johnny referred to might not have been Tiffany and Z. He may have arranged a deal with people that turned out to be the perps, in addition to later inviting over Tiffany and Z.

I'll post more in the other thread, so I don't post a million pics here.

(02-22-2011, 10:45 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: They had lived in the house since 98 I would think she knew how to use it.

not necessarily. i am ALOT older and have been in my home ALOT longer and I don't know where the fuse box is!!!

I shall return, got a MRI at 1:00.

Later gators.

LISA AND HER FRIEND SARAH THAT WAS ON THE NEWS
CLICK TO MAKE LARGER

   

(02-23-2011, 02:00 PM)trixie Wrote: I'll post more in the other thread, so I don't post a million pics here.

posting here is fine, and thankyou very much!

(02-23-2011, 02:30 AM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-22-2011, 09:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-22-2011, 08:56 PM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-22-2011, 08:35 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: SOMEBODY has to know something!!! Locals, what are you hearing?

I've heard rumors it was AP.

You are not alone.....looks like someone called crimestoppers a while back and Jane was able to snag a copy of his distain.

- Jane - 02-13-2011 03:08 AM

AG just posted this, 3 minutes ago, on Facebook

so does anyone want to admit to calling crimestopper on me? all of u fuck niggaz n bitches need

to get it together foreal..sell ur soul for some short shit... sell ur soul perioddd....very sad but we

do live in a city full of snitches, informants, u know shit like that...... whatever u call a person

that can commit a crime but not do the time that comes wit it.......

Since his wall is private, I assume you're a FB friend. Be cautious. Keep it comin', though and copy the cops.

the comments I got off his FB above, were before he made his wall private..