(03-02-2011, 01:27 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 12:36 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I told the bartender to call the police & they just stood there looking stupid so when they didn't act I DID & everyone was yelling NO at me LOL The cops came but everyone had already taken off, the cops found 20 shell casings in the parking lot. Those assholes fired off atleast 20 rounds into a group of people!!!! I was banned from the bar by the bouncer for calling the police LOL

Moral of the story, I don't like living amongst animals, gutter trash & murderers. There should be more people who "snitch" then maybe people would start thinking twice about what they do. As it is now there are too many people who live in fear of the thugs & I won't be one. There's a saying that goes something like, "If you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing"

Intimidation of witnesses is common. Who wants to have their lives disrupted and thrown into jeopardy just because they saw or heard something? Video surveillance is more reliable for prosecution and is getting employed more and more to stem the rise of crime. Its hard to argue with that evidence. Of course the downside is the loss of something we have taken for granted and that is our "privacy". In todays culture our privacy is under total assult by the likes of facebook and in the future privacy my be a lost concept. In many ways "we mockers" have availed ouselves of just this cultural phenomenon by our repeated explorations onto the internet to do our own data-mining and bring it back to be shared the way a lioness does with her pride. This technology cuts both ways.

This type of killing is strongly reminiscent of Mexican drug cartel executions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a connection...

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)AriGold Wrote: This type of killing is strongly reminiscent of Mexican drug cartel executions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a connection...

I know!!!! That's what I'm thinking, ever since Shitty posted some links last night. And they sometimes leave a note, eeeeeek!

So, regarding Billy C:

We were looking at him because he's on the FB friends list of one of the other people (AP, I think) and no known connection to Johnny & Lisa, or Johnny's family, correct? Maytee didn't seem to know who he was. Then there was the creepy video that talked about duct taping people's kids, that he posted right before the murders.

Is that about it?

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)AriGold Wrote: This type of killing is strongly reminiscent of Mexican drug cartel executions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a connection...

Very much so.

There had been an earlier mention of the September 2010 heroin bust in Cleveland. The indictment makes for some interesting reading as to hierarchy and LE surveillance:

http://www.wtam.com/

edited by LC

(03-02-2011, 09:55 PM)esbee Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)AriGold Wrote: This type of killing is strongly reminiscent of Mexican drug cartel executions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a connection...

Very much so.

There had been an earlier mention of the September 2010 heroin bust in Cleveland. The indictment makes for some interesting reading as to hierarchy and LE surveillance:

http://www.wtam.com/

i did not see the names of anyone connected to this case in that document. did you?

(03-02-2011, 09:41 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:35 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:32 PM)NightOwl Wrote: From time to time this BC goon crops up if you notice on Facebook he has children - God Save the children! His children so innocent and sweet........he's only an e.g. but, do we think the monster/s behind the murder of Johnny and Lisa have children - I cannot fathom anyone with children doing this deed - over and over I wonder this - this was a ruthless crime! Anyone else wonder?

I think most people who commit these terrible crimes, who have children, abuse those children.

Depending on your definition of abuse...
His children are shown doing gang signs while he is holding them.
Would you consider that abuse or a parent teaching their kids
what they know, as more mainstream America would consider teaching
their children what they know ie: to always say thank you
and youre welcome, etc.

IMO, that is a form of psychological abuse but that isn't what I meant. I meant they probably beat the shit of their kids, have hard drugs and porn around, maybe molest them, have weapons where kids can get them, drive loaded with them - stuff like that.

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I don't think BC is particulary concerned with his children or anyone elses for that matter. If he were he wouldn't be living the lifestyle that he is & having to go on the run, cross country which takes him away from his children. Apart from that, I remember reading through his records & one stated that he kicked in the door to a girlfriends house, the girlfriend had a 2-3 year old little girl & when he kicked in the door it hit the baby in the face & busted her lip.... he then went on to threatening the mother of this child with a handgun. This may be were the charges he's currently being held on, stem from.

FB, where did you read that?

(03-02-2011, 09:54 PM)shitstorm Wrote: So, regarding Billy C:

We were looking at him because he's on the FB friends list of one of the other people (AP, I think) and no known connection to Johnny & Lisa, or Johnny's family, correct? Maytee didn't seem to know who he was. Then there was the creepy video that talked about duct taping people's kids, that he posted right before the murders.

Is that about it?

yes, that's about it I think.

(03-02-2011, 10:04 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I don't think BC is particulary concerned with his children or anyone elses for that matter. If he were he wouldn't be living the lifestyle that he is & having to go on the run, cross country which takes him away from his children. Apart from that, I remember reading through his records & one stated that he kicked in the door to a girlfriends house, the girlfriend had a 2-3 year old little girl & when he kicked in the door it hit the baby in the face & busted her lip.... he then went on to threatening the mother of this child with a handgun. This may be were the charges he's currently being held on, stem from.

FB, where did you read that?

One of his court dockets. I read one that had a pdf file you could open & it was a description of this event signed by the responding officer.

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:32 PM)NightOwl Wrote: From time to time this BC goon crops up if you notice on Facebook he has children - God Save the children! His children so innocent and sweet........he's only an e.g. but, do we think the monster/s behind the murder of Johnny and Lisa have children - I cannot fathom anyone with children doing this deed - over and over I wonder this - this was a ruthless crime! Anyone else wonder?

I don't think BC is particulary concerned with his children or anyone elses for that matter. If he were he wouldn't be living the lifestyle that he is & having to go on the run, cross country which takes him away from his children. Apart from that, I remember reading through his records & one stated that he kicked in the door to a girlfriends house, the girlfriend had a 2-3 year old little girl & when he kicked in the door it hit the baby in the face & busted her lip.... he then went on to threatening the mother of this child with a handgun. This may be were the charges he's currently being held on, stem from.

where did you read this?

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)AriGold Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 01:27 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 12:36 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I told the bartender to call the police & they just stood there looking stupid so when they didn't act I DID & everyone was yelling NO at me LOL The cops came but everyone had already taken off, the cops found 20 shell casings in the parking lot. Those assholes fired off atleast 20 rounds into a group of people!!!! I was banned from the bar by the bouncer for calling the police LOL

Moral of the story, I don't like living amongst animals, gutter trash & murderers. There should be more people who "snitch" then maybe people would start thinking twice about what they do. As it is now there are too many people who live in fear of the thugs & I won't be one. There's a saying that goes something like, "If you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing"

Intimidation of witnesses is common. Who wants to have their lives disrupted and thrown into jeopardy just because they saw or heard something? Video surveillance is more reliable for prosecution and is getting employed more and more to stem the rise of crime. Its hard to argue with that evidence. Of course the downside is the loss of something we have taken for granted and that is our "privacy". In todays culture our privacy is under total assult by the likes of facebook and in the future privacy my be a lost concept. In many ways "we mockers" have availed ouselves of just this cultural phenomenon by our repeated explorations onto the internet to do our own data-mining and bring it back to be shared the way a lioness does with her pride. This technology cuts both ways.

This type of killing is strongly reminiscent of Mexican drug cartel executions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a connection...

Exactly what I said earlier on...The goings on in Juarez with the turf
wars is very similar...it has bled over into El Paso as well. Im pretty sure
that its bled into other communities too, with all the illegals crossing the borders everyday.

(03-02-2011, 09:41 PM)Jane Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:33 PM)KarmaK Wrote: So i went to the doctor today and she gave me cough syrup with codeine, my first thought was a pic from early on in the thread of someone drinking "purple drank" out of a baby bottle! Had to hold myself back from calling her my nigga and throwing a gang sign LMFAO. Totally irrelevant I know but I thought I would share...

"git yo azz a babi bottle, mixxx dat co-dene wit sum spryte, and drop a blue (cuz we don't lyke dat red) jolly rancher in dat shyt. u'll be so faded cuz"

"unknown" has not changed his mind.

Uh oh. we're on pg 666. May maytee not stryke us down. please. so mote be it!

(03-02-2011, 10:00 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:41 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:35 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:32 PM)NightOwl Wrote: From time to time this BC goon crops up if you notice on Facebook he has children - God Save the children! His children so innocent and sweet........he's only an e.g. but, do we think the monster/s behind the murder of Johnny and Lisa have children - I cannot fathom anyone with children doing this deed - over and over I wonder this - this was a ruthless crime! Anyone else wonder?

I think most people who commit these terrible crimes, who have children, abuse those children.

Depending on your definition of abuse...
His children are shown doing gang signs while he is holding them.
Would you consider that abuse or a parent teaching their kids
what they know, as more mainstream America would consider teaching
their children what they know ie: to always say thank you
and youre welcome, etc.

IMO, that is a form of psychological abuse but that isn't what I meant. I meant they probably beat the shit of their kids, have hard drugs and porn around, maybe molest them, have weapons where kids can get them, drive loaded with them - stuff like that.

Just seein where your mind was at.
Im with ya...
Im sure that happens everyday...just like drug dealers putting their
stashes in their baby's diapers etc.
Sick individuals.

(03-02-2011, 10:06 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 10:04 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-02-2011, 09:46 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I don't think BC is particulary concerned with his children or anyone elses for that matter. If he were he wouldn't be living the lifestyle that he is & having to go on the run, cross country which takes him away from his children. Apart from that, I remember reading through his records & one stated that he kicked in the door to a girlfriends house, the girlfriend had a 2-3 year old little girl & when he kicked in the door it hit the baby in the face & busted her lip.... he then went on to threatening the mother of this child with a handgun. This may be were the charges he's currently being held on, stem from.

FB, where did you read that?

One of his court dockets. I read one that had a pdf file you could open & it was a description of this event signed by the responding officer.

Okay, help me out because I'm not familiar with this criminal stuff - where can we read what he's in jail for now? Do you know if the dates line up with this thing that you read? Got a link to this court docket thingy?

(03-02-2011, 10:14 PM)concerned Wrote: "unknown" has not changed his mind.

Not changed his mind about anything he posted before?


Not changed his mind about contributing more posts to the thread?

CHECK THIS LINK OUT I HEARD THIS IS WHERE THEY GOT BC. I CANT PULL IT UP THOUGH.www.co.ramsey.mn.us/NR/rdonlyres/.../rcsoinmatereport20110222.pdf

(03-02-2011, 10:18 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

BB