(03-07-2011, 05:22 PM)NightOwl Wrote: It's not Professional! So must be personal.
I agree, because it sure wasn't "Random". I am convinced LE knows but just dosen't have enough to make the arrest. They need that "Crime Stoppers" call with the right piece of the puzzel to cinch this up.
It's hard to imagine even LE being smug enough to leave a killer or killers on the prowl if they truly do know who did this. They'd find some way to lock them up.
It highly likely the perp(s) have been brought in for questioning and held as long as was "legally" possible.
here it is, thanks. still saying they await testing results.
TOLEDO, OH -- Lucas County Sheriff James A. Telb says his department continues to pursue leads in the double homicide of Johnny S. Clarke and Lisa Straub that occurred in Springfield Twp. on January 31, 2011.
Deputies are confident that the murder was not a random act of violence and that Clarke and Straub were targeted by their assailants. They do not believe the killers were "professionals" but have no motive for the crime as of now.
Deputies have conducted numerous interviews and polygraph examinations, according to the sheriff. The evidence collected at the scene continues to be processed by the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation and Identification and investigators are awaiting results of those tests. The F.B.I. have also dedicated resources to the investigation.
Didn't Maytee state in her FB post that she knew more than "mockers". I might just be blinded by the 792 pages of thread :O...but I thought she said that...sounds like she may hold the key to what happened if she knows so much. I would love to have her enlighten us on her knowledge. After catching up on all the pages, I have come to the conclusion that Tiffany was an easy target for Maytee. She QUICKLY said to the 911 operator, she set up my son. WHY on earth would you accuse someone that she never met until that night. What facts does Maytee have? DOES ANYONE know if Maytee and John, Sr. are still together???
(03-07-2011, 04:24 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Sheriff updates double death investigation
Monday, March 07, 2011
TOLEDO, OH -- It's been more than a month since two young people were found dead in a home on Longacre Lane in Springfield Twp.
Today, Lucas Co. sheriff James Telb released an update to the investigation.
Officers believe the couple was targeted and that the killings were not random acts of violence. Neither do they believe this was a "professional hit."
Evidence is being examined, as are polygraph results. Anyone with any information should call 419-213-4917 or Crime Stopper at 419-255-1111.
A reward is offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.
WELL THANK YOU GOD WE HAVE SOME KINDA UPDATE!!! THANKS RAISING A PRINCE!!!!
Well, the sheriff does tell us that polygraphs were administered. We knew that too though.
(03-07-2011, 04:03 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: And professionals might have done that, but I don't think these perps were professional or even very smart, though this crime was so vicious that it wouldn't surprise me if they've killed before. I tend to agree that this was a statement of some kind.
So if it was a professional hit, it almost certainly revolved around drugs. I think everyone here on this thread will agree with that. If it was NOT a professional hit it could have been drugs, robbery, a crime of passion or all three...and a lot of people early on were in agreement that the perp(s) had killed before which would make at least one of them a serial killer...so if it was NOT a professional hit, who do you think the perps have killed before? A friend? A random stranger? Someone in a robbery gone awry?
Someone who got in their way or crossed them, I'd say.
(03-07-2011, 05:29 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: And I say it again, "We have absolutely no clue what evidence could
have been tampered with at the scene.
Right. The father certainly was not, nor should have been, concerned with preserving evidence. I don't think the human mind is geared that way in an emergency situation such as he was forced into.
I know I would have probably been holding one of them, rocking them,
sobbing - damn, I do not even want to go there mentally. I am sure
every human being would be traumatized and maybe not even remember
what they did.
I know! the enormity of what had been done would have sent a close family member int some sort of shock.
(03-07-2011, 03:36 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: btw, i am getting really tired of the obese girl's photo showing up every page. [/b]
Me too. Loading that picture multiple times sucked so much bandwidth out of my router that it knocked my Roku off line in the middle of Puccini's La Boheme.
(03-07-2011, 03:36 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: btw, i am getting really tired of the obese girl's photo showing up every page. [/b]
Me too. Loading that picture multiple times sucked so much bandwidth out of my router that it knocked my Roku off line in the middle of Puccini's La Boheme.
one of my favorites! i'm an opera buff.
but that's another topic alas~~
(03-07-2011, 03:36 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: btw, i am getting really tired of the obese girl's photo showing up every page. [/b]
Me too. Loading that picture multiple times sucked so much bandwidth out of my router that it knocked my Roku off line in the middle of Puccini's La Boheme.
I venture that it would not have happened if you had been listening to
Verde's Rigoletto.
(03-07-2011, 03:36 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: btw, i am getting really tired of the obese girl's photo showing up every page. [/b]
Me too. Loading that picture multiple times sucked so much bandwidth out of my router that it knocked my Roku off line in the middle of Puccini's La Boheme.
I venture that it would not have happened if you had been listening to
Verde's Rigoletto.
btw, i am getting really tired of the obese girl's photo showing up every page. [/b]
Me too. Loading that picture multiple times sucked so much bandwidth out of my router that it knocked my Roku off line in the middle of Puccini's La Boheme.
I venture that it would not have happened if you had been listening to
Verde's Rigoletto.
IMO about what spectulation of whos blood is all over....They took knives out of the home as part of the evidence. I think Lisa or Johnny might have got a cut or stab in on one of the perps. Possibly Lisa did and that is why they brutalized her like they did. I am saying "they" because I think there had to have been more than one.
(03-07-2011, 12:41 PM)Methusala Wrote: We all keep referring to "Law Enforcement" and "The Detectives" and that conjures up a certain image, but I keep worrying about just what kind of depth, experience and training exists in the Lucas County Sheriff's Department to handle the investigation of a murder case.
Are we picturing a big staff of trained, experienced civil service detectives, like the the Detective Bureau of the Toledo Police Department has?
Or does the Det. Bureau of the Sheriff's Office consist of only 2-3 people given jobs by the Sheriff as political favors, which is the way I believe the rest of the Sheriff's staff is filled, to-wit his deputies who do traffic patrol and misdemeanors in the unincorporated areas of the county, and run the county jail?
How many people does the Sheriff have in his Detective Bureau? What is their training? What is their experience in handling homicide cases? Just to what extent are they getting assistance if any from the FBI and the Toledo Police Department?
We don't know the answers to these questions, and it troubles me greatly.
How can we find out the answers to these questions? Would the Sheriff answers these questions or would he contend that public responses would compromise the investigation?
Is there anyone on Mock who has friends on TPD or other local agencies who would know the answers to these questions?
"Because of the layoffs, Lucas County will stop participating in terrorism, drug and violent crime multi-jurisdictional task forces."
Sure wish the local news media would interview Johnny's father and Lisa's father. It would be interesting to hear their opinions. I can say on here "KEEP THE FAITH!"
Lucas County Prosecutor Julia Bates asked for a legal opinion from Attorney General Richard Cordray on the topic of Lucas County being able to charge for public safety answering point (PSAP). You can read the full opinion at this LINK.
In essence, the County can not:
Not only does a county sheriff lack express statutory authority to charge a township that is served by a PSAP operated by the sheriff a fee for receiving 9-1-1 calls and dispatching police and fire personnel to respond to 9-1-1 calls in the township, but to conclude that a sheriff may do so pursuant to a contract for road patrol services would be inconsistent with the provisions of law governing the funding of PSAPs.
The basic summary:
In conclusion, it is my opinion, and you are hereby advised as follows:
1. A county sheriff who operates a public safety answering point may not charge a township that is served by the public safety answering point a fee for receiving 9-1-1 calls and dispatching police and fire personnel to respond to 9-1-1 calls in the township when the sheriff and township have entered into a contract whereby the sheriff provides road patrol services to the township.
2. A county sheriff who operates a public safety answering point and township that is served by the public safety answering point may not enter into a contract whereby the township pays the sheriff for receiving 9-1-1 calls and dispatching police and fire personnel to respond to 9-1-1 calls in the township.
3. Pursuant to R.C. 4931.45, a county’s final 9-1-1 plan may be amended to require a township that is served by a public safety answering point operated by the county sheriff to pay a portion of the costs associated with operating the public safety answering point through an addendum approved by a majority of a 9-1-1 planning committee, provided the addendum does not change the source of funding as between the alternatives set forth in R.C. 4931.43(B)(5).
4. Pursuant to R.C. 4931.45(B), an amendment to a county’s final 9-1-1 plan that changes the source of funding for a county sheriff’s public safety answering point as between the alternatives set forth in R.C. 4931.43(B)(5) must be made in accordance with the procedures set forth in R.C. 4931.42-.44.
While the opinion does not state what needs to be done with any money that was improperly charged as fees, it’s been assumed that the Townships that paid Lucas County will seek to have that money refunded. What impact this will have on Lucas County and the budget for the Sheriff’s department remains to be seen.
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