(04-24-2011, 09:05 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i doubt they are involved. the people who killed Johnny and Lisa are laying very low if they have even a tiny stick-insect brain.

That's a big if.

Has anyone been wondering why Lisa took Vicodin that evening and Johnny didn't? They both had perc., in them do we think she got it from someone at the restaurant maybe? if she did they aren't going to come forward - is the Vicodin a possible connection?

Then does anyone know if Johnny and Lisa still had their shoes on?
Sonny123 mentioned shoes earlier on here and a possible hair on them etc., what would that tell us if the shoes were off - a lot of people take their shoes off to relax for the night - if your still going out your shoes are on - I kind of doubt who ever murdered them wouldn't bother taking Johnny's shoes off that would be more work.
I just see so damn much work in this double murder it's terrible does anyone agree with me? Seems to me they went to great lengths. IMO

It is possible Lisa had her wisdom teeth pulled recently as that is
what vicodin is often prescribed for. To work and have your head
up and down from a menu pad, one would need a vicodin.

It has been exactly 12 long and disturbing weeks now...still holding on hope for an arrest soon.

The only press conference ever given by detectives was the day of the murders... and maybe even a fresh set of eyes to added to this case before this double homicide goes cold. The billboards have are long gone.
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I saw it posted 4-23-11 on Airport & Byrne.

Just as an FYI since there isn't anything new, two of AG's "friends" were arrested this weekend. One for drug trafficking (DP) and one for carrying concealed weapon/giving false info (KT). I don't think either of these names have been mentioned here before and they are probably unrelated to this crime. I am just hoping that sooner or later LE will pick up someone that is willing to talk in exchange for leniency. Still not sure AG is involved but I think it is most likely someone, somewhere in that group.

I hope everyone had a Safe & Happy Easter I was hoping for an Easter arrest but I see that was unsuccessful. I will continue Keepin the Faith.

(04-25-2011, 02:45 PM)Nina Wrote: Just as an FYI since there isn't anything new, two of AG's "friends" were arrested this weekend. One for drug trafficking (DP) and one for carrying concealed weapon/giving false info (KT). I don't think either of these names have been mentioned here before and they are probably unrelated to this crime. I am just hoping that sooner or later LE will pick up someone that is willing to talk in exchange for leniency. Still not sure AG is involved but I think it is most likely someone, somewhere in that group.

Nina, You always have good information. Good lookin out!

I was thinking about the prints inside the house of LS parents on Longacre rd. Now if in fact this party took place the days prior to the crime, how would LE separate latent prints if the perps attended that party? Also if the killers did attend the party, their fingerprints would be all over the house, and also be part of the crime scene right?

i feel certain Sonny, that all prints in the house, from the party, were lifted & matched if on record, and those people interviewed. the only prints that really matter are those on the duct tape and plastic bags. obviously those can't be explained by being at the party.

Nina, Good reporting as always!

Whats your opinion on the Sylvania Ohio Robbery mentioned? Do you find it strange a 27 year old woman involved with an 18, 19 & 20 year old - it looks like she went to Springfield Highschool if she is the same one - the 18, 19 & 20 yearold turn out to be an odd trio. Thanks!

(04-25-2011, 03:41 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Whats your opinion on the Sylvania Ohio Robbery mentioned? Do you find it strange a 27 year old woman involved with an 18, 19 & 20 year old - it looks like she went to Springfield Highschool if she is the same one - the 18, 19 & 20 yearold turn out to be an odd trio. Thanks!

I am starting to think that Toledo is just full of criminals and drug addicts; pinning it on the right ones might be harder than I originally thought. The booking reports are full of armed robberies and drug trafficking. That is a scary story and really scary that someone followed you home. I am usually oblivious to stuff like that but I will probably be paranoid if it looks like a car might be following me now.

Yes, I do think it odd that a 27 year old woman was hanging out with those boys but TW, a mother of 4, hangs out with underage kids drinking and drugging too so I guess its not too out of the norm for them. I would be surprised if women were actively involved in this murder but stranger things have happened.

If the prints don't match on the bags or the tape, that is if LE did in fact find some, could LE make the 100 people they interviewed give up their fingerprints?

(04-25-2011, 04:03 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: could LE make the 100 people they interviewed give up their fingerprints?

I would think that something like that would infringe on one's rights.

(04-25-2011, 04:03 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: If the prints don't match on the bags or the tape, that is if LE did in fact find some, could LE make the 100 people they interviewed give up their fingerprints?

if their prints were in the database, which is pretty likely with many of those involved, no problem. if they want prints from other people they can ask them to comply. or they can simply get a warrant from a judge to obtain prints. for that they would need probable cause. being at the house for the party is enough probable cause. innocent people would want their prints taken to eliminate them as possible suspects.

Right! Well I watch a lot of first 48 and crime 360 on t.v., and it seems to me that LE might need to try some of these people for advice? Is that legal to have LE from other states to help out in murder cases? Like a seasoned homicide detective retired or not to help out, fresh eyes, a lot more experience.

FBI is looking at a car in the storage lot.......hmmm I wonder if that has anything to do with this case.

Heard it on the scanner.

Rut row!

(04-25-2011, 07:57 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: FBI is looking at a car in the storage lot.......hmmm I wonder if that has anything to do with this case.

Very interesting! Even though there are alot of crimes in the area that are unsolved, so it could pertain to any one of them. Thats the sad thing.