(04-12-2012, 09:42 PM)crash Wrote: Well this was like a Hilary Clinton campaign...promised plenty by the architects, but fizzled out pretty quick.

*sigh*

That's Hillary and wait until 2016, mister.

(04-12-2012, 09:45 PM)username Wrote: I think you're equally guilty of trying to minimize this case because you think black people are unfairly using it to further their own causes. I agree but that doesn't change the facts of this case IMO.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

We don't know what happened yet. If Trayvon would have been a few months older, nobody would give a shit, I know that.

I think if the little beaner was attacked, he had a right to defend himself. I assume I have the same right. I think the parents are fucking shameless in their quest to be blameless (see, I could be the new Jesse Jackson).

Minimize, march, no matter to Cracker. But fuck you if you only march about the law when you think it will personally benefit your own fuckedupness. I am Troy Davis!

User: that doesn't change the facts of this case.


which is why i said i haven't made up my mind about this case. we haven't seen all the facts.
my first post in that thread was 100% sympathetic to martin. i have seen 2 different versions now. i think sharpton et al colored (pun intended) my initial sympathetic feelings.
this is one of those very rare times i may not be 100% pro proscecution. but my mind is still open.

(04-12-2012, 09:50 PM)Cracker Wrote:

(04-12-2012, 09:46 PM)Adub Wrote: And Cracker knows about that?

I hope your neighbor takes an undue interest in your dog.

I would love that, also. Brynn is one bad-ass pitbull. Pussy ass won't even come into his backyard any more. His troll-of-a-wife has him pussy whipped. Gawd, I hate them. Why'd ya have to bring them up.

You are way off on the Trayvon sito. And your supporter LC is not too far behind.

What I have been able to take from your ramblings is that the "sins of the fathers ..... ?" somehow excuses Zimmerman's profiling of a black teen walking through the gated community?

(04-12-2012, 09:53 PM)username Wrote: That's Hillary and wait until 2016, mister.

Will she look even more like Al Gore then?

(04-12-2012, 09:55 PM)Cracker Wrote: I think if the little beaner was attacked, he had a right to defend himself. I assume I have the same right. I think the parents are fucking shameless in their quest to be blameless (see, I could be the new Jesse Jackson).

Minimize, march, no matter to Cracker. But fuck you if you only march about the law when you think it will personally benefit your own fuckedupness. I am Troy Davis!

Again, mixing issues. Would you mind if I followed you/chased you when you were doing nothing but, say, walking to your car? Do I have a right to know what you're doing if I decide (in my own subjective mind) that you look suspicious?

Who was attacked?

What blame do the parents have? I don't want to go back and dig up all the details but they didn't have exact GPS coordinates on their kid at the time? WTH? My son is 13 and I don't fucking walk him to 7-11. This kid was close to being 18; I don't see the parents as being terribly neglectful because they weren't sitting on his ass. Regardless, I wouldn't say, well, if they'd only known his exact whereabouts, he wouldn't have been shot. That's akin to blaming a woman for getting raped because she had a short skirt on.

Adub: . And your supporter LC is not too far behind.


did you read my post 23? i think i am perfectly reasonable. and trust me, profiling may sound ugly to people, but it is human nature.

(04-12-2012, 10:10 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Adub: . And your supporter LC is not too far behind.


did you read my post 23? i think i am perfectly reasonable. and trust me, profiling may sound ugly to people, but it is human nature.

Talk to Cracker about it.

(04-12-2012, 09:43 PM)Cracker Wrote: Shhh. They're thinking...

No, maybe some of us fat ass cows are actually multi-tasking and not hanging on your every word.

(04-12-2012, 09:32 PM)Cracker Wrote:

(04-12-2012, 09:30 PM)sally Wrote: I know the tone of black peoples voices, and I'm sure Cracker does too from her time spent in movie theaters. That 911 tape sounded like a black kid desperately screaming for help, not a spic named Zimmerman.

Did it say, "helllllp!" or "hep me!"?

If it were "help me, help me, oh lord Jesus help me" then it would be pretty clear cut that it was a fat black woman. This is a very complicated case Cracker, a lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous.

(04-12-2012, 10:06 PM)Adub Wrote: What I have been able to take from your ramblings is that the "sins of the fathers ..... ?" somehow excuses Zimmerman's profiling of a black teen walking through the gated community?

Why do you assume he was "profiling" him? Maybe because there is a certain group of similar-type people who would rob you fucking blind if you don't pay attention?

That's a shit argument. The black community can eat that one. Hate it that blacks in hoodies roaming around at night aren't a more welcome sight, but I didn't make any so you can't pin that shit on me.

Until some responsibility is shared, I don't see anything changing. If you don't want someone thinking you are up to no good, don't be a fucking criminal. It's really that easy.

For the record, the chubby chihuahua would have had my side-eye, too. haha

(04-12-2012, 10:10 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Adub: . And your supporter LC is not too far behind.


did you read my post 23? i think i am perfectly reasonable. and trust me, profiling may sound ugly to people, but it is human nature.

I think it's hard not to profile. But reasonable people should know how far to take that profiling. You ought to know that you're making an assumption and factor that in to your decision making process.

I can look at someone wearing a turban at the airport and my antennae might go up but I also know that because he's wearing a turban that doesn't necessarily make him a terrorist.

(04-12-2012, 10:21 PM)Adub Wrote:

(04-12-2012, 09:43 PM)Cracker Wrote: Shhh. They're thinking...

No, maybe some of us fat ass cows are actually multi-tasking and not hanging on your every word.

Moo.

You are a bitch. But I like you.

fuck fuck fuck 5 police officers have been shot in NH, one is dead. still going on. suspect barricaded.

http://mockforums.net/post-235490.html#pid235490

(04-12-2012, 10:22 PM)Cracker Wrote:

(04-12-2012, 10:06 PM)Adub Wrote: What I have been able to take from your ramblings is that the "sins of the fathers ..... ?" somehow excuses Zimmerman's profiling of a black teen walking through the gated community?

Why do you assume he was "profiling" him? Maybe because there is a certain group of similar-type people who would rob you fucking blind if you don't pay attention?

That's a shit argument. The black community can eat that one. Hate it that blacks in hoodies roaming around at night aren't a more welcome sight, but I didn't make any so you can't pin that shit on me.

Until some responsibility is shared, I don't see anything changing. If you don't want someone thinking you are up to no good, don't be a fucking criminal. It's really that easy.

Trayvon should not have paid with his life for the criminal activities of others. Or because of fashion, or any other bullshit. Zimmerman imagined that Trayvon was "up to no good". Nothing more.

(04-12-2012, 10:18 PM)Adub Wrote: Talk to Cracker about it.

Waaaah. Fourteen percent of the population (really less, not all black folks are bad, just a segment) commits over 50% of the crime, over 80% of some types of crime. Don't blame me for not being a POS and feelin' their pain.

(04-12-2012, 10:27 PM)Adub Wrote: Trayvon should not have paid with his life for the criminal activities of others. Or because of fashion, or any other bullshit. Zimmerman imagined that Trayvon was "up to no good". Nothing more.

Nothing matters that happened before physical contact. Whoever struck the first blow is to blame. That's the real issue, not your liberal flower-sniffing Cali bullshit. (Sorry, haha. I'm not a flatlander or a Bay Area weirdo.)

I have to finish up my work and sleep now. You can call me what you want and get away with it for the next 16 hours. Give me hell.

(04-12-2012, 10:27 PM)Cracker Wrote:

(04-12-2012, 10:18 PM)Adub Wrote: Talk to Cracker about it.

Waaaah. Fourteen percent of the population (really less, not all black folks are bad, just a segment) commits over 50% of the crime, over 80% of some types of crime. Don't blame me for not being a POS and feelin' their pain.

Back to my original post...you can't view this particular case objectively because you're too caught up in the race issue. You're the white Al Sharpton.

(04-12-2012, 10:29 PM)Cracker Wrote: Nothing matters that happened before physical contact. Whoever struck the first blow is to blame. That's the real issue, not your liberal flower-sniffing Cali bullshit. (Sorry, haha. I'm not a flatlander or a Bay Area weirdo.)

So it's cool if I follow you or your young one's, while they're doing nothing criminally wrong, and confront them about their activities. And if I do follow you, if you feel threatened and turn around and push me, I'm within my rights to shoot you dead.

Riiggggggggggght.

(04-12-2012, 10:33 PM)username Wrote: So it's cool if I follow you or your young one's, while they're doing nothing criminally wrong, and confront them about their activities. And if I do follow you, if you feel threatened and turn around and push me, I'm within my rights to shoot you dead.

Riiggggggggggght.

Mine would have been at home on a school night, not kicked out of school. That's your argument? That's all you can see?

You can't have an intelligent conversation if you are going to do the knee-jerk bleeding heart thing. Use your head.

None of the bullshit you throw at it changes the basic facts. If Trayvon attacked someone, the person had the right to defend himself. None of the people who live there ran out to help, so he shot him. If Zimmerman's story is correct. If it isn't, he'll be punished.

You people are the worst kind of cows. What exactly are you basing your damning decision on? The fact that Trayvon was 17? Because 17 year olds aren't always babies. Some of them are mean mutherfuckers. Some of them rape and kill. Was Trayvon violent? Didn't know him, but his twitter shows he spent time with gang members, sold weed, and has been violent (or lied about trying to hit a bus driver, sweet kid if he actually did it). He didn't get to be 18 because his parents laid down on the job.

At least the neighborhood watch guy was doing something about crime besides breeding a criminal.

If you let your kids do fucked up things you don't always get to pick the consequences. The more people glorify or excuse physical violence, the more fed up people have to deal with it. Wrong place at the wrong time, picked the wrong guy to hit. Such is life. That shit happens all the time in the ghetto. That low-rent "gated community" is ghetto.