What I find troubling is the amount of paper currency he's been printing, and the idea that unsustainable debt is what's going to keep this country afloat.

Whether or not neocons think he a citizen is pretty low on the radar at this point. More like an asterisk that just doesn't mean much.

(04-26-2012, 10:39 AM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: What I find troubling is the amount of paper currency he's been printing, and the idea that unsustainable debt is what's going to keep this country afloat.

Whether or not neocons think he a citizen is pretty low on the radar at this point. More like an asterisk that just doesn't mean much.

And I see your view like a super ball with a chunk missing, you can bounce it but you don't really know which way it's going to go.

All of it needs to be taken and wadded together like a huge shit ball because that is what all of it is one huge shit ball.

I have a problem with people that reject any part of the pattern, it always makes me think they are too shallow and tunnel visioned to be trusted to make any sort of logical reasoned decision when they vote.

as far the money thing goes, do you think we were down graded because there is no faith and credit in the people of this country?

No for the question you should ask?

Why are the people sitting still for that shit and why has our down grade disappeared from the media? WTF when was the last time you heard anything about it ? even from his opponents that are running against him?

Information disappears around this guy, it gets shut down on the internet it gets dropped by the media, and then everyone sits back and forgets all about it.

"Join with me while we Fundamentally change America" was his position when he was elected, I don't think he forgot about it but just about everyone else has.

I agree with you on the way info is being controlled and disseminated, but trying to get him out of office by saying he isn't a natural born citizen is more than appalling. The Certificate of Live Birth is not a faked document. Of course it could be, but that's like saying one guy with a poorly sighted malfunctioning russian rifle shot the president in the back of the head in 1963 in such a way that the whole front of his head was blown to shit.

We're back to 4.00 a gallon gas, which is what brought this last crippling economic cycle to bear. Folks who made 8 bucks an hour the first time this happened are still making 8 bucks an hour, assuming they kept their shitty jobs in the recession.

How's changing dicks in the middle of a screw going to help anything?

(04-26-2012, 10:56 AM)IMaDick Wrote: why has our down grade disappeared from the media? WTF when was the last time you heard anything about it ? even from his opponents that are running against him?

Good question. I had forgotten about that.

(04-26-2012, 10:56 AM)IMaDick Wrote: "Join with me while we Fundamentally change America" was his position when he was elected, I don't think he forgot about it but just about everyone else has.

Quote:Ma wrote: How's changing dicks in the middle of a screw going to help anything?

I posted this a couple of weeks back in the 2012 election thread; it was from a CNN poll.

This was interesting:
Although Obama has been president for more than three years, 56% of Americans continue to blame former President George W. Bush and the Republicans for the country's current economic problems, with only 29% blaming Obama and the Democrats.

That's a helluva perceived Bush hangover, 3+ years.

If things are still broken and promises were not kept by the Pres in office, I'm not sure what's best. Give it more time (if you think the Pres is making progress) or change dicks and hope for better. In any case, the previous Pres is likely to take a lot of blame from the opposing party if the new one does not clean up the messes that he inherited as quickly as desired. Same as in any corporate situation as well, I guess.

Still on the fence...

(04-26-2012, 11:00 AM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: I agree with you on the way info is being controlled and disseminated, but trying to get him out of office by saying he isn't a natural born citizen is more than appalling. The Certificate of Live Birth is not a faked document. Of course it could be, but that's like saying one guy with a poorly sighted malfunctioning russian rifle shot the president in the back of the head in 1963 in such a way that the whole front of his head was blown to shit.

We're back to 4.00 a gallon gas, which is what brought this last crippling economic cycle to bear. Folks who made 8 bucks an hour the first time this happened are still making 8 bucks an hour, assuming they kept their shitty jobs in the recession.

How's changing dicks in the middle of a screw going to help anything?

It's your puzzle you put it together anyway you want to.

When you think you have it and are missing a corner piece look into the birther corner you will find it there.

The birth thing is just one piece of the puzzle I would have hoped you were smart enough to figure that out.

no one is putting all of their eggs in one basket except this president, He's hoping people haven't gotten any smarter in 4 years.

I don't deny anything you're saying IAD except for the birther bs. He's fit to be president, he was elected in the first authentically FAIR election in years, and he's the people's choice for better or worse. Whether he's a GOOD prez or not is very open to discussion.

Who would you have had in there instead the last four years, whats his name and Palin? I cant even remember his fucking name.

Following blindly is not the answer.

Try leading.

(04-26-2012, 12:21 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Following blindly is not the answer.

Try leading.

Utter gibberish.

Voting for even an inanimate object as long as its a repub is "leading" is it dick?

Whatever you say!

(04-26-2012, 12:30 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(04-26-2012, 12:21 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Following blindly is not the answer.

Try leading.

Utter gibberish.

Voting for even an inanimate object as long as its a repub is "leading" is it dick?

Whatever you say!

Go play with your Parliament from what I can tell your country is more fucked than this one.

I'm a registered Independent.

(04-26-2012, 12:34 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Go play with your Parliament from what I can tell your country is more fucked than this one.

I'm a registered Independent.

Then you can tell very little, we are fucked but not as fucked up as you are.

You are as "independent"as a grand wizard of the KKK.

(04-26-2012, 12:44 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(04-26-2012, 12:34 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Go play with your Parliament from what I can tell your country is more fucked than this one.

I'm a registered Independent.

Then you can tell very little, we are fucked but not as fucked up as you are.

You are as "independent"as a grand wizard of the KKK.

Living in a daze is appealing but I just can't do it like you do.

Nothing trumps the fact you claim to be independent when you have elephant underwear.

Brilliant.

(04-26-2012, 01:08 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Nothing trumps the fact you claim to be independent when you have elephant underwear.

Brilliant.

Well i would show you my VRC but you couldn't read it what with your impairment and all.

I guess you will just have to take my word for it or not it's up to you.

http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88885325-P...on-4-10-12


".........Wilcox was going to testify on how the Obama April 27, 2011, long-form birth certificate has been altered and manipulated either by computer software or by a human or both, producing a forged documents, and that since the image is not reliable, we need to see the original paper version.Respondent’s lawyer objected to the proffered testimony. Petitioners then offered that they would not need to have Mr. Wilcox testify, provided that Obama stipulated that the internet image of his birth certificate could not be used as evidence by either Judge Masin or the New Jersey Secretary of States and that he presented to the court or the Secretary of State no other evidence of his identity or place of birth. Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth. ........."

The way to control the markets, the money and the world is not through unity but through chaos and discontent. You want to know who really wants to run the world look for people with deep pockets who seem to be going out of their way to foment discord.
Why HELLO Mr Murdoch. Why HELLO tea Party founders...etc.

(04-26-2012, 01:31 PM)Donovan Wrote: The way to control the markets, the money and the world is not through unity but through chaos and discontent. You want to know who really wants to run the world look for people with deep pockets who seem to be going out of their way to foment discord.
Why HELLO Mr Murdoch. Why HELLO tea Party founders...etc.

Let me see, Murdoch, tea party and no koch brothers or for that matter no buffet.

see ya slimey.

(04-26-2012, 01:14 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88885325-P...on-4-10-12


".........Wilcox was going to testify on how the Obama April 27, 2011, long-form birth certificate has been altered and manipulated either by computer software or by a human or both, producing a forged documents, and that since the image is not reliable, we need to see the original paper version.Respondent’s lawyer objected to the proffered testimony. Petitioners then offered that they would not need to have Mr. Wilcox testify, provided that Obama stipulated that the internet image of his birth certificate could not be used as evidence by either Judge Masin or the New Jersey Secretary of States and that he presented to the court or the Secretary of State no other evidence of his identity or place of birth. Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth. ........."

Lots of contradictions in that "document" that looks more fake than Obama's BC.

(04-26-2012, 02:40 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(04-26-2012, 01:14 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88885325-P...on-4-10-12


".........Wilcox was going to testify on how the Obama April 27, 2011, long-form birth certificate has been altered and manipulated either by computer software or by a human or both, producing a forged documents, and that since the image is not reliable, we need to see the original paper version.Respondent’s lawyer objected to the proffered testimony. Petitioners then offered that they would not need to have Mr. Wilcox testify, provided that Obama stipulated that the internet image of his birth certificate could not be used as evidence by either Judge Masin or the New Jersey Secretary of States and that he presented to the court or the Secretary of State no other evidence of his identity or place of birth. Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth. ........."

Lots of contradictions in that "document" that looks more fake than Obama's BC.

Did you read the whole court transcript?

I didn't think so, next idiot please.

(04-26-2012, 02:58 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Did you read the whole court transcript?

I didn't think so, next idiot please.

A - Most of it, speed reading does come in handy sometimes.

B - Absolutely, after you dick.