(07-30-2012, 03:21 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: does anyone know the name of williams' mother?

Doris Aliemenious

evidently doesn't want her name or photo out there.

(07-30-2012, 03:21 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: does anyone know the name of williams' mother?

Doris Aliemenious

Call from Mustang. Jury started deliberating about 20 min. ago. They will all be hanging out waiting for yet another phone call . Will keep me posted!

M. did not hear Doris's testimony, but was told it went on for about 90 minutes and was all about her. Sister Nora,went on and on about things that happened to her before Williams was born. Wife and ex-wife. M.said those pieces of s--t are worthless. The mother of a good friend and a Pastor. Lisa'a sister wil make victim's witness statement.

Does anyone know who the defense witness was for Williams? Didn't the defense call one witness?

I am CONSTANTLY UPDATING the Blade.

Why hasn't he ratted out anybody yet?!!! Come on!!!!

I did not attend Williams' mother's testimony, but i am told it was a 90 minute explanation of how fucked up she is with about 10 minutes of Sam thrown in at the end. She was followed by Williams' sister, Nora Smoo (sp?) who testified about her being badly burned in a house fire as a child and losing 2 siblings in the fire, but that was before Sam was even born. She testified that Sam was spoiled as a child, was pretty normal, considers his mom his best friend and that their mother told her that Williams' father came to see him for the first time when he was 5 months old. He left to go buy some diapers and never returned. (Can't say I wouldn't have taken a look and done the same.) Prosecutors brought out a police report she filed where Sam had threatened to kill her.

Next up...the current wife, Starla Cowell Williams, who went on and on about what a great guy Sam was; made her laugh and could make her feel better just by being in the room. Prosecutor brought up that she was was arrested for prostituting herself, with Sam's consent, when 22 months pregnant.

Victoria Metcalf, Sam's first wife and mother of his son, testified about what a good father Sam was, how he helped her parents with chores around the house when he lived with them after she became pregnant, and was a devoted family man when they first married. Prosecutors refreshed her memory, via a police report she filed, regarding a death threat Sam made to either her or her current beau, Nate Popovich.

Tia Atkins, mother of a very close childhood friend of Sam's testified about what a great kid he was. She and her husband took him into their home as a teen because he didn't get along with his stepfather. They eventually became his legal guardians. She described him as a normal kid who loved football and basketball, and who frequently helped with chores.

Last was Harold McCardell, a pastor who met Sam through Victoria when they began having marital problems. He counselled Sam, who then helped him at a restaurant he owned, as well as around his house with things he couldn't do himself as a result of being confined to a wheelchair. He said Sam never asked for or received any payment for all his help, other than maybe an occasional meal. When asked by prosecutors when they last spoke he said it was around 2008 or 09.

In closing arguments the prosecutor deftly raised suspicion on any of the mitigating factors have weight due to the fact that everyone seemed in agreement that he was a pretty good kid, and later a seemingly good man. He was never acting out, in trouble, ill behaved, torturing animals and the like.

Defense concluded that missing the love of a father was more than he could bear and asked the jury to, "stop the killing at two."

Waiting on the verdict and when it comes down Lindsay Straub will give a Victim Impact Statement, as will either John Clark or Maytee, depending on what the judge decides about allowing Maytee in court.

Finally, I read posts from earlier today regarding the possibility that the jury could recommend a 25 or 30 year sentence rather than death. Technically, they could recommend Life without Parole, Life with possibility of Parole after 30 or Life without possibility of Parole until 25. The prosecutors gave the impression to the families at the conclusion of the trial phase that sentences would be consecutive. The best scenario for Williams then is the possibility of parole after 50 years for 2 counts of Ag. Murder, another 20 minimum for 2 counts of kidnapping, and I believe he said another 5 years minimum on the burglary charge. That would mean if he lives to be 98 years old he will be eligible for parole if he gets the minimum sentences on all 5 counts. And that's only if he gets credit for time served thus far. If not, he'd have to wait until he's 99.

(07-30-2012, 04:54 PM)Mustang Wrote: Prosecutor brought up that she was was arrested for prostituting herself, with Sam's consent, when 22 months pregnant.

Now THAT is some long pregnancy..!

(07-30-2012, 04:31 PM)fabulous Wrote: Does anyone know who the defense witness was for Williams? Didn't the defense call one witness?

fabulous: the only defense witness was Lucas County Sheriffs Department detective Jeff Kozak. They attempted to make the investigation look slipshod and raise the possibility of other possible suspects that hadn't been investigated. Didn't work.

thanks Mustang!

"prostituting herself, with Sam's consent, when 22 months pregnant"

damn, 22 months pregnant, that had to be a bitch!

"or Maytee, depending on what the judge decides about allowing Maytee in court. "

oh puleeeeeeze your honor! let her speak!

Thanks for the update Mustang!
Sounds like they all tried to put lipstick on a pig.

Have any of you that are down there gotten anything from any of the jury?

Mustang, it's late in the day. do you think judge will hold over victim impact statements and sentencing until tomorrow? sort of looks that way since jury hasn't come back.

So, glad you chimed in! I'm always worried that I'll screw up!

Doesn't really speak to your "gentle giant" side when you have threatened to kill everyone in the court room speaking on your behalf!!! Just Sayin.......

Judge Mandros explained to jurors that they will recommend a sentence of death, life in prison without parole, life in prison with parole eligibility after 30 years, or life in prison with parole eligibility after 25 years. He also informed jurors that they would be sequestered until they reached a verdict.

The jurors’ decision will be a recommendation to Judge Mandros, who
will ultimately decide what sentence to impose FROM BLADE ABOUT 30 MIN. AGO

(07-30-2012, 02:23 PM)queen bitch Wrote: That made me laugh.. first I received a text that Starla was testifying and I thought. WTF? after reading mock forums I thought "how stupid they were to think the prosecutor wouldn't bring out their skeletons in their closets" Made me laugh.. to think if they would have brought out more.... this really couldn't have helped his defense, right?

You would think they would be happy if he got the death penalty. Its probably the only way they will ever get child support from him (Social Security).

Sam's Lawyer said " lets stop the death at 2, 2 enough" Are you kidding me? Just saw that on the news.

Jurors deliberating on whether to recommend death penalty for Williams
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Jurors began deliberating today on whether to recommend the death penalty for a man found guilty in the asphyxiation deaths of a Springfield Township couple. Jurors heard testimony throughout the day in Lucas County Common Pleas Court from witnesses including Samuel Williams’ family members, includi...
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Totally agreed karen how dare them even ask for this demon vile monters life to be spared....makes me sick how about when johnny and lisa cried pled begged for their life and this monster tortured them to death wow this vile demon does not deserve the right to breathe how dare him and all the times prior in court when he would laugh smile wink at us after knowing what he did to our kids i want to vomit this monster DESERVES TO BE PUT TO DEATH ASAP
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Karen Bland Smile and wink? What a vile POS. I'm so sorry once again, Maytee. Williams is a monster and deserves the fate he has coming to him ... leaving prison in a box.
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Yes karen smiling and winking at us while we sat there choking on tissues having to relive every single detail in graphics of what he did to our kids im so disgusted
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Karen Bland Horrible. I hope the jury considers the smiling and winking, in recommending a sentence.
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(07-30-2012, 06:06 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: Sam's Lawyer said " lets stop the death at 2, 2 enough" Are you kidding me? Just saw that on the news.

That made me cringe.