(12-14-2012, 05:56 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote:

(12-14-2012, 05:49 PM)Adub Wrote: I'm pretty sure that the shooter is 20 year-old Adam Lanza. He lived with his mother, Nancy Lanza, in Sandy Hook.

Some news outlets are saying this is the case and was carrying his brothers i.d.

I was speculating to myself that might have been the case.

Wasn't the kid in Oregon 20 years old too?

Violent video games have been out for about 10-15 years now. I'm not saying that's the sole reason, or even A reason for carnage being committed by young people, but it does seem like more than just a coincidence...

I'd be interested to hear from friends and family members if either of these guys were known to play violent video games for hours on end.

The Clackamas shooter was 22 years old.

What We Know About Alleged CT School Shooter Adam Lanza


After a whole lot of confusion, the NY Post, NY Times and other news outlets have now identified Adam Lanza as the suspect in the tragic shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut this morning. Altogether, at least 27 people were killed, including 20 children, when the 20-year-old Lanza allegedly walked into the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and opened fire.

NBC initially reported that a Ryan Lanza killed his father in Hoboken NJ this morning, then drove to Connecticut to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where his mother Nancy is a kindergarten teacher. It would be an understatement to say that there have been several conflicting reports about this timeline though: some reported that a body was found in a family home at 36 Yogananda Street in Newtown. CNN reported that Lanza's younger brother was found dead in Hoboken; a previous AP report claimed the younger brother was being held for questioning. That has since been amended to read that the 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, the older brother, is being questioned, but is not considered a suspect.

http://gothamist.com/2012/12/14/photos_v...out_al.php

I just have no words.... What is wrong with this world?? So much heartbreak and tragedy I can't even wrap my mind around this. As a parent I'm afraid to let my kids out of the house. No where is safe anymore. Not school, the mall, the movies. Are we even safe in our homes??

(12-14-2012, 05:47 PM)username Wrote:

(12-14-2012, 05:33 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: So, as some of you may know, I have a kindergartner and a pre-schooler.

They've both used the words 'die/kill' and heard them, but I don't think they fully understand them.

I ask you all: Do I talk to them about this?

I really don't want to.

No. Definitely not.

Good call User.

Here's what our elementary Principal sent out to parents today after the murderous rampage:

In light of the events that were happening in Connecticut, I want to assure you that the staff and I have made it our highest priority to keep students feeling safe and comfortable today at school. As always, we have controlled access to the school and have asked parents coming into the building not to discuss today’s news with children at school.



We communicated the situation via a confidential email to all staff and asked that they keep all discussion of events at an absolute minimum, and in no case discuss events around children. We have limited elementary students access to the internet and news sources as well. Generally, students are unaware of any concerns and experienced a very productive day.



In our schools, we take safety and security very seriously and have safety plans in place, including having upgraded all of our secure entrances within the last five years. We will use this situation as a reminder to once again review our safety protocols with staff and students in the coming days. All of our Schools practice lock-down drills a few times a year and have lock-down procedures in place. Still, we continue to be reminded from violent events at shopping malls, movie theaters, work places and schools, that we must be diligent; everyone in our school community plays a role in keeping our children safe.



We know that in most every case you, as parents, will be charged with the serious task of discussing with your child the event of the day. We hope you will find the following tips helpful guidance this evening.



Reassure your children that there will be always be adults there to take care of them, whether at home, in school, or in day care. Provide reassurance to each other. Children’s greatest fear is being separated from or losing their family.
Reassure your children that we keep our buildings secure during the school at all times. During the year, we also practice when our classroom doors need to be locked so that we can stay safe.
Keep your day to day routines. Have meals together, follow bedtime rituals, enjoy each other.
Minimize your child’s exposure to news media today and this weekend. Seeing repeated images of tragedy or violence are not good for children. If your children are watching news reports, be there with them so you can explain what they are seeing and hearing. Children need accurate information. But, remember that children do not process complex information the same way adults do; they do not have the geographic or cultural perspective that adults have.
Validate your children’s worries, feelings, and confusion – accept their questions, listen and talk with patience. Your honest information regarding the situation should be at their level of understanding.
We need to help our children maintain a sense of hope for the future. Help them to visualize an eventual resolution to a scary, sad and anger filled situation. “People have lots of work to do to get the world back together. Someday we’ll be able to figure out a peaceful way to settle fights.”
Think of ways on how to make the world better, more peaceful place, do something positive with your children – write letters, display a flag, make peace chains. Children may act out in an attempt to gain control over their understanding. Watch carefully for signs of nightmares, eating problems, excessive anxiety, or anger. Contact your school support staff or consult a professional therapist if symptoms persist.
Stay calm.


Please know that our staff will begin the day Monday with an opportunity for students to discuss the situation briefly along with a review of our safety procedures at school.

My heart is sick. It's times like this that I can be heard saying "I'm glad that I'm as far a long as I am." What a troubled world. CBS has been quite cautious with their reporting. I doubt that we will know what the real story is for at least 24 hrs., if then. Prayers to all the families.

(12-14-2012, 06:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Violent video games have been out for about 10-15 years now. I'm not saying that's the sole reason, or even A reason for carnage being committed by young people, but it does seem like more than just a coincidence...

Spoken like a true douchebag ( I stole that from Aussie). Anyone that commits these type of crimes has something a lot deeper going on than a stupid video game. These thoughts just stem from your Christian brainwashing, upbringing.

(12-14-2012, 06:56 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-14-2012, 06:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Violent video games have been out for about 10-15 years now. I'm not saying that's the sole reason, or even A reason for carnage being committed by young people, but it does seem like more than just a coincidence...

Spoken like a true douchebag ( I stole that from Aussie). Anyone that commits these type of crimes has something a lot deeper going on than a stupid video game. These thoughts just stem from your Christian brainwashing, upbringing.

Feeling a little butthurt over BBHill saying you bring 'bad energy' to the club or what?

Why do 20 and 22 year olds have a fascination with guns and killing if they don't hunt?

You don't see any validity at all in my questioning violent video games and their effect on young minds?

I'm simply trying to fathom how someone can round up 20 5 year-olds and mercilessly gun them down. How do they get to that point?

How about they're so desensitized from having killed so many 'individuals' in their video games, that they've finally brought it to real life??

I'm simply searching for answers.

Good luck in getting me to respond negatively to you calling me a Christian too.

That's actually the highest compliment you could give me.

Thanks!

How about people are just nuts and they've been since the beginning of time? Video games and music lyrics don't turn a rational human being into a lunatic.

(12-14-2012, 07:03 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Feeling a little butthurt over BBHill saying you bring 'bad energy' to the club?

I have bigger fish to fry right now. I just found out my kid skinned the neighbors cocker spaniel after playing black ops 2.

I don't think that video games and music lyrics can make a balanced sound-minded person turn into a killing machine. But, I'm open to the possibility that they can contribute to an already imbalanced person (especially a kid) acting out violent impulses by reinforcing them through visual stimuli. IDK, it's possible, imo.

I wanna know what was going on in Adam Lanza's life with his mom and what the other influences were in his life.

(12-14-2012, 07:31 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I don't think that video games and music lyrics can make a balanced sound-minded person turn into a killing machine. But, I'm open to the possibility that they can contribute to an already imbalanced person (especially a kid) acting out violent impulses by reinforcing them through visual stimuli. IDK, it's possible, imo.

I wanna know what was going on in Adam Lanza's life with his mom and what the other influences were in his life.

It could trigger someone who is already nuts, but than again anything could trigger it.

Am i hearing this right, I just got back from running an errand, that the father of the shooter is now not dead but being questioned? I just heard this on cnn, the situation room? goodness talk about things flying around earlier and nothing being given out right...

With the picture being released of the wrong person, i'm curious can that person come back and do anything to the media outlets for releasing his identity as the shooter? surely his life has been upended and turned upside as his mother hadn't been able to get a hold of him and she claims 21 voice mails an hour.

(12-14-2012, 06:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Violent video games have been out for about 10-15 years now. I'm not saying that's the sole reason, or even A reason for carnage being committed by young people, but it does seem like more than just a coincidence...

I'd be interested to hear from friends and family members if either of these guys were known to play violent video games for hours on end.

Remember when I said this a couple of hours ago?

Notice where I prefaced the sentence in large type?

Video games would clearly be just a CONTRIBUTING factor.

As HotD has stated, other things in his/their lives have to be wrong as well, but hours on end of killing human images would, I think, make the 'real deal' easier to do.

This is just unfathomable evil.

And MS, I'm late to the game but I wouldn't discuss it with your kids. Let their innocence survive intact as long as you can.

(12-14-2012, 09:32 PM)Jimbone Wrote: This is just unfathomable evil.

And MS, I'm late to the game but I wouldn't discuss it with your kids. Let their innocence survive intact as long as you can.

Yeah. Knowledge of something like this potentially happening wouldn't have helped those kids at all. :(

(12-14-2012, 07:48 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: Am i hearing this right, I just got back from running an errand, that the father of the shooter is now not dead but being questioned? I just heard this on cnn, the situation room? goodness talk about things flying around earlier and nothing being given out right...

With the picture being released of the wrong person, i'm curious can that person come back and do anything to the media outlets for releasing his identity as the shooter? surely his life has been upended and turned upside as his mother hadn't been able to get a hold of him and she claims 21 voice mails an hour.

Sure, if he is a sue happy leech.

I too believe constantly playing violent video games can influence one's rash actions. However, I would think that there are not any video games out there where the enemy is a "5" year old!

Maybe to a sicko, age is not, must not be a factor.

I'm already on the fence believing in God, fucked up absurd shit such as this, sort of confirms that there can't be!
And if it turns out there is, he/she/it certainly is not benevolent. And is not kind in any way.

You cannot legislate morality. This happened because this kid had mental problems that were inflated with todays reliance on drugs and laws to babysit and coddle nutcases.

(12-14-2012, 10:00 PM)Maggot Wrote: You cannot legislate morality. This happened because this kid had mental problems that were inflated with todays reliance on drugs and laws to babysit and coddle nutcases.

There ya go.
It wasn't bad gun laws
It wasn't bad schools
It wasn't bad guns
It was a fucking retard that was allowed to live and wasn't taught right from wrong