(01-19-2014, 08:54 AM)Maggot Wrote: Remember when AIDS was just starting to hit all the papers and news. Nobody knew what was going on. There was a shit ton of fear as everyone had no clue what was going on and how it was spread. It created a lot of bad blood.

I remember the bigotry, the scapegoating of the gay minority. I remember the hysteria. That is right, it is called 'fear' as you have said. The 'fear' of the homosexual community still exists in the form of discrimination and ignorance. Some people wreak of it more than others.

(01-19-2014, 02:16 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Some say AIDS was a secret man made government weapon created in a lab to get rid of “undesirables”.

Hmmmm.

If by 'undesirables' they mean people who think like morons and associate homosexuality with AIDS even though there is no scientific basis for that belief then, I am all for it. Get rid of 'undesirables' that would even bring this subject up for serious debate. Idiots. You can't fix retarded.

(01-19-2014, 12:45 PM)Duchess Wrote:
I'd love to know some stats on whether kiddie fiddlers are gay or straight. I think we'd probably find that the overwhelming majority are straight as a pin.

They are perverts, they are usually so twisted sexually you couldn't say whether they were gay or straight. The thing with the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, it was the sexual perversion that was the offence, not whether they were gay or straight, they were rapists trying to force themselves on visitors who happened to appear as men. However, it is used to say that homosexuals are perverts, which is false.

(01-19-2014, 04:33 PM)aussiefriend Wrote:

(01-19-2014, 08:54 AM)Maggot Wrote: Remember when AIDS was just starting to hit all the papers and news. Nobody knew what was going on. There was a shit ton of fear as everyone had no clue what was going on and how it was spread. It created a lot of bad blood.

I remember the bigotry, the scapegoating of the gay minority. I remember the hysteria. That is right, it is called 'fear' as you have said. The 'fear' of the homosexual community still exists in the form of discrimination and ignorance. Some people wreak of it more than others.

(01-19-2014, 02:16 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Some say AIDS was a secret man made government weapon created in a lab to get rid of “undesirables”.

Hmmmm.

If by 'undesirables' they mean people who think like morons and associate homosexuality with AIDS even though there is no scientific basis for that belief then, I am all for it. Get rid of 'undesirables' that would even bring this subject up for serious debate. Idiots. You can't fix retarded.

There is a scientific basis why homosexual men, blacks, and junkies were hit harder with aids than other groups of people. Homosexual men and blacks in general have more sexual partners than other groups of people. And in the case of the junkies it's pretty self explanatory. It's not rocket science.

It's not a mystery why the homosexual community in Key West was nearly wiped out in the 80's. They have several hotels there where gay men meet up to fuck each other in the ass.

(01-19-2014, 06:30 PM)sally Wrote: Key West

Cowboy has friends there right now & last week they texted him a picture of them on the beach wearing jackets. WTF...and that's what I said to him too.

High risk behaviours such as IV drug use and unprotected sex does not equate to homosexuality causing AIDS. There may be higher incidence of unprotected sex in the homosexual community due the fact that in the 80s condoms were mainly used as forms of contraceptives and this was seen as an unnecessary appendage during homosexual sex.

I had a friend who was HIV+, he was a gay man who contracted the virus through unprotected sex. But his homosexuality had nothing to do with him contracting the virus, it was the unprotected sex. You can also contract it through vaginal sex Sally, not just anal sex.

I realize you can contract it through vaginal sex, Aussie. I'm just saying that gay men are more promiscuous than other groups of people so of course aids would be more predominant among them. That doesn't make it a "gay" disease, however, because it didn't have a big impact on lesbians. It just means that homosexual men are more likely to spread it.

(01-19-2014, 06:49 PM)sally Wrote: It just means that homosexual men are more likely to spread it.

Oh my God that is so fucked up. That is right up there with Ramseyspeak.

Promiscuous people are more at risk of contracting the virus due to high risk behaviours such as IV drug use and unprotected sex. That includes prostitutes, married men, HIV+ positive men and women who give blood transfusions and members of the gay community.

Right over Aussies head Sally.

(01-19-2014, 07:01 PM)aussiefriend Wrote:

(01-19-2014, 06:49 PM)sally Wrote: It just means that homosexual men are more likely to spread it.

Oh my God that is so fucked up. That is right up there with Ramseyspeak.

Promiscuous people are more at risk of contracting the virus due to high risk behaviours such as IV drug use and unprotected sex. That includes prostitutes, married men, HIV+ positive men and women who give blood transfusions and members of the gay community.

Get your head out of your ass Aussie and stop trying to be so PC. Drug users, blacks and homosexual men are the largest population of HIV and hepatitis carriers. It's a fact and there is a reason for it. They are all groups of people that IN GENERAL have more sexual partners than other groups of people. Therefore they are the ones most responsible for spreading it.

I am still eagerly awaiting your scientific results and data to back up your crude analysis of the disease.

It has reached epidemic proportions in some populations so there must be mountains of evidence, some which you yourself may have contributed to.

(01-19-2014, 07:03 PM)ramseycat Wrote: Right over Aussies head Sally.

Right over Ramsey's head world!

that was pretty good Aussie.

(01-19-2014, 10:23 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: I am still eagerly awaiting your scientific results and data to back up your crude analysis of the disease.

I don't know where AIDS originated Aussie, but it was predominant in homosexual men that had multiple sex partners who fucked each other in the ass. It's a fact and you can't just overlook it for the sake of being politically correct.

It probably was a government conspiracy. Blacks and homos fuck like monkeys so what better way to rid of them?

Of course there will casualties, but since when does the government care about that?

They're dropping like flies all along the bible belt. Right?

Now the dude on the bachelor is in hot water for saying his opinion on gays. Since when is it wrong for a person to answer a question honestly? I may not agree with his opinion or the Duck Dynasty dude's opinion, but I do feel they gave a right to feel how they feel. I'm so sick of all this PC bullshit. The press asked him if he thought there should be a gay bachelor and he said no. Big deal. Move on people.

It's fodder for the masses. Some people really get off on that bs.

(01-20-2014, 12:00 AM)sally Wrote:

(01-19-2014, 10:23 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: I am still eagerly awaiting your scientific results and data to back up your crude analysis of the disease.

I don't know where AIDS originated Aussie, but it was predominant in homosexual men that had multiple sex partners who fucked each other in the ass. It's a fact and you can't just overlook it for the sake of being politically correct.

Jesus, aussie. You often refuse to provide facts/proof to support your stubborn sweeping (and, frequently, wrong) assertions during a serious discussion, and you've scoffed at those who provide them to you proactively or who request them of you. Now, you want scientific results from others to support what's common knowledge?

Sally's right on this one. The scale of the AIDS epidemic and the demographics of those affected differs from region to region. But, three decades into the epidemic and with many advancements in treatment and management, men who have sex with men are still the most impacted (no pun intended) in most regions.

In North America, 2% of the population is gay men - but 57% of the newly infected are gay men, with African-American homosexual men being the largest growing sector. That's a fact, a sad one, but a fact nonetheless. In Latin America and Asia, homosexual men also account for the largest portion of the newly infected.

And, yes, drug injectors and sex workers of all races and sexual orientations are at or near the highest portion of the population of newly affected across all regions.

Don't believe me or sally? Want more scientific results and data? Read the Unicef report. I read it last year; very interesting if you actually want the straight dope without bias, emotion, crudity, opinion or perceived political correctness mixed in.

http://www.unicefusa.org/assets/pdf/2011...rt_opt.pdf

For people to deny that AIDS was a predominantly gay disease when it burst on to the scene just shows their ignorance.

In fact, when Magic Johnson was diagnosed in Nov of 1991 it finally became clear that a hetero could contract it. Who knows, 22 years later maybe Magic will disclose that he was doing guys too?

He and Isaiah Thomas always looked super gay together.

This is what happens when you eat bush meat in Africa. Especially old rotting bush meat thats been sitting in a hot tent for a week. Thats my theory anyways.