I'd meet you and your wife for breakfast, MS.

It's not like I'm Kate Upton or anything, but you still pant over Lindsay Lohan and probably even Octomom and Mama BooBoo.

I don't trust your wandering eyes and it would be rude to have both your wife and I laughing in your face over eggs benedict, so I'd be wearing a pancho and a flattening sports bra.

(12-30-2013, 11:34 AM)Maggot Wrote: They should ALL be charged with hate crimes.

Screw hate crimes. There's no such thing.

Put them in prison for twenty years without parole for attempted murder.

If they say they were just trying to knock them out then tag on five years for terminal stupidity.

(01-04-2014, 04:12 PM)username Wrote: A 90+ y/o shot the hell out of a much younger intruder around here. Heh-heh.

A few years ago in the UK an old woman thwarted the robbery of a jewellery shop with her handbag and walking stick. Just made herself such a fucking nuisance the robbers gave up and made off empty handed.

Is that the case where the robbers were on motorbikes? If so, I remember that. It made the news here.

(01-05-2014, 03:53 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Is that the case where the robbers were on motorbikes? If so, I remember that. It made the news here.

Yeah that's the one. The robbers smashed the exterior display windows of a jewellers shop and threatened the owners and staff when they came outside to stop them.

The old woman was walking past and made herself such a persistent nuisance they gave up and drove off on their bikes empty handed.

In America they would have probably just shot her in the face and carried on robbing.

(01-02-2014, 04:39 PM)sally Wrote: He had to punch an elderly black man to get his point across, really? The guy is a fucking asshole, lock him up for good for all I care. Had he knocked out some 6'4 300 pound nigger than his theory might be a bit more respectable.

Another real winner was arrested last week for knocking out Jewish women in a Brooklyn neighborhood. LE doesn't have evidence to support hate crime charges in a court of law, but hopefully they can get 10 years or more for the asshole because three of his knockouts were women over the age of 70. Crimes against the elderly increase the assault charges from misdemeanors to felonies in New York.

Story:
Barry Baldwin, a Brooklyn resident, was charged with three felony counts of assault, three misdemeanor counts of assault and other crimes in connection with a spate of attacks between November 9 and December 27 in predominantly Jewish sections of Brooklyn.

Earlier, police had held Baldwin on preliminary hate-crime charges, including assault as a hate crime and aggravated assault as a hate crime. But the district attorney's office did not file any such counts.

A spokesman for the Brooklyn district attorney's office declined to say why it did not pursue the hate-crime charges recommended by police, except to say that the office filed only the charges that could be supported by evidence.

On November 9, police said, Baldwin allegedly punched a 78-year-old woman who was pushing a stroller -- apparently as part of the "knockout" assault game, in which people try to knock a random stranger unconscious with a single blow. The victim was knocked to the ground.

On December 7, he allegedly struck again, punching a 20-year-old woman in the back of the head in Brooklyn.

Between December 21 and December 27, Baldwin allegedly assaulted four more women, including a 33-year-old woman who was walking with her young daughter; a 78-year-old woman; and a 71-year-old woman.

After the attack on the woman walking with her 7-year-old daughter in the Midwood section of Brooklyn, police released a sketch of a suspect.



The mother was punched in the back of the head and knocked down, police said. She suffered minor injuries to her knees and hands. The suspect ran away.

Baldwin was arrested December 29 by detectives canvassing the neighborhoods where the previous attacks had occurred, police said. He was charged after witnesses identified him in a police lineup.

Baldwin faces three felony assault counts because three of the victims are senior citizens. In New York, intentionally injuring someone 65 or older is a Class D felony when the attacker is at least 10 years younger than the victim.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/justice/ne...?hpt=ju_c2

FEDERAL HATE CRIME CHARGES AGAINST BARRETT STAND



A federal grand jury in Houston indicted 27-year-old Conrad Alvin Barrett on Thursday. Barrett was arrested Dec. 26 and remains in custody pending a court hearing next week.

Investigators say Barrett slugged the 79-year-old victim, breaking his jaw in two places, in a Nov. 24 attack in Katy. They say he laughed and shouted "knockout" as the man fell to the ground.

Investigators say Barrett videoed the attack on his cellphone and shared the recording.

The Associated Press left a message for defense attorney George Parnham seeking comment. Parnham has said Barrett has a bipolar disorder and was off his medication when the attack happened.

(01-23-2014, 06:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Parnham has said Barrett has a bipolar disorder and was off his medication when the attack happened.

His defense. Great, just great.

Put him in general population, let them sort it out.

(01-08-2014, 10:57 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(01-02-2014, 04:39 PM)sally Wrote: He had to punch an elderly black man to get his point across, really? The guy is a fucking asshole, lock him up for good for all I care. Had he knocked out some 6'4 300 pound nigger than his theory might be a bit more respectable.

Another real winner was arrested last week for knocking out Jewish women in a Brooklyn neighborhood. LE doesn't have evidence to support hate crime charges in a court of law, but hopefully they can get 10 years or more for the asshole because three of his knockouts were women over the age of 70. Crimes against the elderly increase the assault charges from misdemeanors to felonies in New York.

Story:
Barry Baldwin, a Brooklyn resident, was charged with three felony counts of assault, three misdemeanor counts of assault and other crimes in connection with a spate of attacks between November 9 and December 27 in predominantly Jewish sections of Brooklyn.

Earlier, police had held Baldwin on preliminary hate-crime charges, including assault as a hate crime and aggravated assault as a hate crime. But the district attorney's office did not file any such counts.

A spokesman for the Brooklyn district attorney's office declined to say why it did not pursue the hate-crime charges recommended by police, except to say that the office filed only the charges that could be supported by evidence.

On November 9, police said, Baldwin allegedly punched a 78-year-old woman who was pushing a stroller -- apparently as part of the "knockout" assault game, in which people try to knock a random stranger unconscious with a single blow. The victim was knocked to the ground.

On December 7, he allegedly struck again, punching a 20-year-old woman in the back of the head in Brooklyn.

Between December 21 and December 27, Baldwin allegedly assaulted four more women, including a 33-year-old woman who was walking with her young daughter; a 78-year-old woman; and a 71-year-old woman.

After the attack on the woman walking with her 7-year-old daughter in the Midwood section of Brooklyn, police released a sketch of a suspect.



The mother was punched in the back of the head and knocked down, police said. She suffered minor injuries to her knees and hands. The suspect ran away.

Baldwin was arrested December 29 by detectives canvassing the neighborhoods where the previous attacks had occurred, police said. He was charged after witnesses identified him in a police lineup.

Baldwin faces three felony assault counts because three of the victims are senior citizens. In New York, intentionally injuring someone 65 or older is a Class D felony when the attacker is at least 10 years younger than the victim.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/justice/ne...?hpt=ju_c2

Hate crime?

(01-05-2014, 01:20 PM)cladking Wrote:

(12-30-2013, 11:34 AM)Maggot Wrote: They should ALL be charged with hate crimes.

Screw hate crimes. There's no such thing.

Never thought about it before but I agree. A crime is a crime...what's the point of adding "hate" to it except to give minorities some greater leverage/options in court?

I also learned that some states have stiffer penalties for striking the elderly. If that's the law in the state (and not decided on a case by case basis), I'm cool with that. I suppose it's akin to stiffer penalties for assaults on minors.

(01-23-2014, 09:42 PM)Maggot Wrote: Hate crime?

In all of my years following crime stories, the only people that get charged with hate crimes are the ones who are stupid enough to leave a bunch of evidence indicating that they targeted a victim because of his/her color, religion, or sexual orientation. It's a hard charge to prove otherwise. Baldwin didn't hand LE such evidence, Barrett did.

There are probably a ton of criminals who targeted people based on such factors who couldn't be charged with a "hate crime" because they didn't make public declarations, tape themselves with video or audio describing their intended victims...

Personally,I think crime is crime for the most part. However, if you target the elderly or disabled (regardless of their race or sexual orientation) to prey upon violently, the penalties should be as harsh as possible. Fuckwads.

To me, non-seniors and physically able people of different races and sexual preferences than their assaulters are in no way presumed any weaker than anyone else.

The laws are what they are though, and whatever gets Barrett the most time is okay by me. As for Baldwin, he lives in a jurisdiction with harsher penalties for assaulting the elderly. He may well end up doing more time than Barrett, even if Barrett is convicted of a hate crime. That's okay by me too.

Another asshole charged...


Dillon Destefano, 19 - charged with aggravated assault and battery

Snip:
Destefano was arrested Tuesday night and charged with aggravated assault and battery. He was held on $20,000 pending arraignment expected Thursday.

The Massachusetts college student was in custody Wednesday in connection with three apparently random assaults that happened over the course of a single hour on campus last weekend.

Destefano punched three fellow students on the Beverly campus between 1:30 a.m. and 2:30 a.m. Sunday, police said. Two of the victims of early morning attacks at Endicott College were hospitalized with broken facial bones from the alleged attacks by Dillon Destefano, 19, of Riverdale, N.J.

Destefano was accompanied by two other students at the time of two of the alleged assaults, but they have not been charged, police said. All three, however, have been suspended from the school, Wylie said.

The assaults took place at Endicott, a private school about 25 miles northeast of Boston, has about 2,600 undergraduate students on its Beverly campus.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article...206479.php

10 YEAR SENTENCE. NOT ENOUGH, BUT BETTER THAN NOTHING.


^ Colton Gleason, knock-out murder victim. RIP.


^ Jesse Smithers, asshole knock-out perpetrator. Rot.

ST. CLOUD, Minn. (WCCO) – After 17 months of waiting, a family finally learned how much time the man who killed their son will be in prison.

A Stearns County judge sentenced 18-year-old Jesse Smithers to 10 years on Thursday. Smithers admitted to delivering the deadly punch in a St. Cloud alley almost a year and a half ago and eventually pleaded guilty to second degree murder.

On Sept. 21, 2012, Colton Gleason was walking with friends when a car pulled up, and Smithers got out and punched him. Colton died after falling and hitting his head.

His father, John Gleason, says the pain, bitterness and hurt his family feels did not go away with the sentencing of the man responsible for his son’s death.

“We’ve been given a life sentence by this cowardice attack and murder of our son,” John said. “He’ll serve very few short years and he’ll be back out again, and our son is gone forever.” John says his son was the victim of a deadly “knockout game.”

“This group was out there and their intentions were very clear. This is unprovoked. They stopped and they saw someone they thought they could victimize,” he said. “Colton didn’t have a chance to even turn and defend himself when somebody blind-sided punched him.”

Smithers apologized in court for what he called a “complete accident". (Oh, please).

"This tragedy has changed his family forever. All they have now are the memories of a 20-year-old that was loved by so many", Colton's mother Julie said. “He was just fun to be with all time, and he was always hugging and telling everyone he loved them."

If he doesn’t commit any offenses in prison, Smithers could be released in about five years.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/02/06...tal-punch/

10 years??? That's not NEAR enough time.

(12-30-2013, 12:24 PM)sally Wrote: I don't see how punching elderly people and 16 year old girls is anything to be proud of anyway, it's not like they knocked out Mike Tyson.

This.

Ten years for a murder. What the fuck is that. With good behavior he could be out in five. That's a slap in the face to that kid's family and not by any stretch of the imagination can that be called justice.

I agree, it's not enough time.

If he behaves himself in jail, he could be out by the time he's 23. I hope he gets in a lot of trouble.

If he does the full sentence, he'll only be 28 when he's released.

It sucks. I don't think Smithers meant to murder Gleason, but he sure as hell meant to hurt him, for a thrill, and he caused an innocent stranger's death in any case.

I wish the penalty for this second degree murder would have been much harsher.

At least there was no successful affluenza defense in play on this one.

This case doesn't involve the "knock out" game specifically, but it's a crime of murder by random knock-out, so it fits alright in this thread.


Ryan Flannigan, 26 -- RIP

Ryan and his buddies were at a bar in Palatine, Illinois a week ago last Friday.

Another group of buddies were at the same bar.

Both groups reportedly ended up outside at the same times and there was some verbal back and forth between the two groups, but nothing violent.


That's when this winner, ^ Michael Platt - 34, randomly decided to punch Flannigan in the head.

Flannigan fell backward and was knocked unconscious. He never regained conciousness and died 10 days later, on Monday.

Platt had initially been charged with aggravated battery and was out on $75,000 bail. He's now in custody on $2,000,000 bond and charged with first degree murder.

One stupid, (probably) drunken, unnecessary punch -- one life is over and the other is likely going to be spent paying for it. Senseless violence.

Story:
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20140...140739903/

^ this type of thing has become unfortunately common over here in recent years. It's resulted in the term 'King hit' being relabelled as a 'Coward's punch' and a whole bunch of new legislation and new, more severe, minimum penalties for those convicted under the new laws.