I'm siding with the crazy fuck on this one, you'd have to be a real cunt to do that over an argument. Unless like I said, he physically assaulted her or slept with another woman.

He lived with this woman for some time and raised children with her before the vacation. They stayed together for almost a year after the incident. I highly doubt the woman is some psycho, abusive, weirdo, stalker, bitch who victimized a poor innocent Donovan, even IF she was a cunt in that situation.

I also doubt she left them "in the middle of nowhere". If so, only a bigger pussy than she's a cunt would stay in the relationship afterwards. I imagine it was probably more a matter of having to plan and pay for an unexpected plane ride or train ride or rental care. That's a huge pain in the ass, but it isn't gonna damage a normal person's psyche or scar them for life or anything.

Anyway, if I was that pissed off at somebody and/or they at me, I'd be a cunt in a heartbeat and secure alternate transportation for myself voluntarily or ask the other person to do so. No effin' way I'm choosing to take an 800 mile hell drive when there are other options, especially if I had my niece with me (I wouldn't do that to her).

I'm not big on bullshit drama and angst though.

Dono didn't have his couch with him to find coins for bus fare though. He probably wouldn't have been so pissed if she gave him a couple hundred for a ride home. That's the part that's really cruel..leaving him to hitchhike and stuff.

(05-09-2015, 11:15 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: He lived with this woman for some time and raised children with her before the vacation. They stayed together for almost a year after the incident. I highly doubt the woman is some psycho, abusive, weirdo, stalker, bitch who victimized a poor innocent Donovan, even IF she was a cunt in that situation.

I also doubt she left them "in the middle of nowhere". If so, only a bigger pussy than she's a cunt would stay in the relationship afterwards. I imagine it was probably more a matter of having to plan and pay for an unexpected plane ride or train ride or rental care. That's a huge pain in the ass, but it isn't gonna damage a normal person's psyche or scar them for life or anything.

Anyway, if I was that pissed off at somebody and/or they at me, I'd be a cunt in a heartbeat and secure alternate transportation for myself voluntarily or ask the other person to do so. No effin' way I'm choosing to take an 800 mile hell drive when there are other options, especially if I had my niece with me (I wouldn't do that to her).

I'm not big on bullshit drama and angst though.

Same here.

I'm going to be a mad muthafucka if someone leaves me 800 miles from home. I'd like to know the whole story so I know who to call a juvenile twat.

(05-10-2015, 05:56 AM)Duchess Wrote:

I'm going to be a mad muthafucka if someone leaves me 800 miles from home. I'd like to know the whole story so I know who to call a juvenile twat.

You'll never get the whole story unless they go on Dr Phil. lol.

Nah, the argument was one she started over something stupid and then escalated when I refused to fight. My now-ex spent years with abusive assholes and learned all sorts of ugly nasty fighting tricks from them. Meanwhile, I don't like to fight at all. It didn't work well. After she ditched us HotD isnright, it was inconvenient as hell and required about five or six hundred bucks to get us home and we should have been done then: I was packed and ready. But she begged me not to and I'm a softie for crying chicks.

Unfortunately when the trust is gone there's only the slow death of the relationship. She would periodically snap and get reckless with her mouth and this time she told me to hit the bricks because I didn't trust her. So I said ok. Don't think she expected just how quick and cold I can fucking be when I need to.

I'm kinda thinking I just ain't the staying kind. Three years isn't what I had in mind for this relationship, but fuck it I've had shorter ones.

And Duchess there's no such thing as a one sided ending. I'm pretty sure we're both juvenile twats. But I gotta side with the one I am stuck with: me. You may feel free to disagree.

@sally I have never in my life put hands on a woman or cheated. I'm a little prideful about both. Unfortunately when someone is of a jealous sort it doesn't matter because they believe what they will and damn the truth. Hell, she was jealous of YOU bitches.

(05-10-2015, 05:25 PM)Donovan Wrote: And Duchess there's no such thing as a one sided ending. I'm pretty sure we're both juvenile twats. But I gotta side with the one I am stuck with: me. You may feel free to disagree.

I don't disagree at all. I was on your side the moment you said she left you & your son. When someone loves you they care about your safety & well being even when pissed off, they don't leave you 800 miles from home. You suck it up and get through it. That's what adults do. That's my opinion, I know others don't share it.

She's a juvenile twat.

(05-10-2015, 05:28 PM)Donovan Wrote: she was jealous of YOU bitches.

Did you let her read Mock with you or are you talking about someplace else?

We would have welcomed her if she had joined.

The only thing that I am mad with Donovan about is that he took her back. She cried and manipulated him and he fell for it. Hearing the story I could see what a manipulative mad cow she was and it's like "oh God here come the waterworks". My sister took her ex back after he pulled a knife on her! I was hysterical, literally. I broke down at work and had to go home, it was embarrassing. Giving a psycho a second chance when you have had a lucky escape could cost you your life.

I always think people who give others another chance are generous. I'm not generous. The only chance I give anyone is the one they are enjoying right now. If you fuck that up, I'm done.

I forgive and forgive and forgive. People make mistakes. However, once the switch is flipped and I'm done forgiving, that's it. If I get to the point where I don't care anymore, there's no going back. When I'm done I'm done. The funny thing is you can fuck up big a few times and I'll forgive you. But then ypu can do something really stupid and minor but that will be the last straw. I never know what it will be or when it will happen but when it does, you no longer matter to me.

(05-11-2015, 08:20 AM)ramseycat Wrote: I forgive and forgive and forgive.

I'd like to be able to be a little more like that.

(05-11-2015, 08:23 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(05-11-2015, 08:20 AM)ramseycat Wrote: I forgive and forgive and forgive.

I'd like to be able to be a little more like that.

Yea but you get hurt. Every hurt chips away at whatever feelings I have for that person until there's nothing left. And there's no getting it back.

(05-11-2015, 08:32 AM)ramseycat Wrote: Yea but you get hurt.

For me, that's the whole point. I'm not giving anyone the opportunity to do that again.

(05-11-2015, 08:32 AM)ramseycat Wrote:

(05-11-2015, 08:23 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(05-11-2015, 08:20 AM)ramseycat Wrote: I forgive and forgive and forgive.

I'd like to be able to be a little more like that.

Yea but you get hurt. Every hurt chips away at whatever feelings I have for that person until there's nothing left. And there's no getting it back.

This. I know me. And once I put my back to somebody it's done. So I generally try to exhaust every effort before that point. I know you ladies tease me about some of the shit I say about myself as if it's bragging but emotional shutdown is a handicap I'd probably like to live without. I spend way too much time feeling like Steve Martin in the Jerk, shuffling down the road with my pants around my ankles shouting that all I need is this ashtray, this chair and this fucking paddle ball game.

(05-10-2015, 06:01 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(05-10-2015, 05:28 PM)Donovan Wrote: she was jealous of YOU bitches.

Did you let her read Mock with you or are you talking about someplace else?

We would have welcomed her if she had joined.

Message boards in general and specifically any WOTI messageboards. She is insanely jealous and even of people who live hundreds or thousands of miles away that I'll never meet ouside the internet. She was particularly jealous of Ilyanna who lives in Germany for fuck sake. I never told her about Mock. God forbid she knew I was chatting about poop and Jedi mind tricks with this many actual attractive women in one place?

(05-11-2015, 09:48 AM)Donovan Wrote: God forbid she knew I was chatting about poop and Jedi mind tricks with this many actual attractive women in one place?

That tickled my funny bone. Go figure.