(02-19-2016, 06:26 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Has anyone heard of superdelegates? I ask because I don't recall ever hearing of them before this year. If what I'm reading is true, Hillary has 481 to Bernie's 55. That's a sizable difference and if they continue to back her then Bernie will have to win the remaining primaries by a landslide just to catch up.

It means your vote doesn't count for shit.

(02-19-2016, 06:51 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote: It means your vote doesn't count for shit.

Ah, that reinforces what I've always thought.

I think the Democratic Party should do away with super delegates.

They serve no purpose, in my opinion, other than giving candidates favored with party insiders early fuel and props. They were introduced to minimize the chances of grassroots and outsider candidates being able to gain the nomination against the positioned "unbeatable" established candidates. I see the super delegates and their votes as sales/marketing tools for the DNC. It's wrong, in my opinion. The Republican Party doesn't have them and I don't think the Democratic Party should either.

Super delegate votes comprise about 15% of the total votes needed to win the nomination, I believe. If Bernie Sanders were to beat or tie Hillary Clinton in the caucuses / primaries across the country, the super delegates in Sanders-winning states would most/all switch from Clinton to Sanders at the convention. Super delegate votes have never decided the Democratic nomination. It would be political party suicide for the super delegate votes to go against the general election votes, especially now with the anti-establishment movement so strong. The Democrats would be handing the election to the Republicans because a hell of a lot of registered Democrats would not show up to vote in the presidential election or would vote against the very undemocratic Democratic party in such a case.

(02-19-2016, 09:31 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I think the Democratic Party should do away with super delegates.

They serve no purpose, in my opinion, other than giving candidates favored with party insiders early fuel and props. They were introduced to minimize the chances of grassroots and outsider candidates being able to gain the nomination against the positioned "unbeatable" established candidates. I see the super delegates and their votes as sales/marketing tools for the DNC. It's wrong, in my opinion. The Republican Party doesn't have them and I don't think the Democratic Party should either.

Super delegate votes comprise about 15% of the total votes needed to win the nomination, I believe. If Bernie Sanders were to beat or tie Hillary Clinton in the caucuses / primaries across the country, the super delegates in Sanders-winning states would most/all switch from Clinton to Sanders at the convention. Super delegate votes have never decided the Democratic nomination. It would be political party suicide for the super delegate votes to go against the general election votes, especially now with the anti-establishment movement so strong. The Democrats would be handing the election to the Republicans because a hell of a lot of registered Democrats would not show up to vote in the presidential election or would vote against the very undemocratic Democratic party in such a case.

There's WAY too much attention given to superdelegates in this primary. Relax, they are used for ties.

Hillary tried to say Bernie isn't a Dem last night. Didn't go over well. Meanwhile, ole Bern keeps his campaign clean

I was surprised she labeled some of his supporters as being akin to Tea Party members.

Seemed like an ill-crafted aussie analogy.

(02-19-2016, 12:13 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: I was surprised she labeled some of his supporters as being akin to Tea Party members.

Seemed like an ill-crafted aussie analogy.

(02-19-2016, 11:33 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: There's WAY too much attention given to superdelegates in this primary. Relax, they are used for ties.

I'm pretty relaxed here Gunnar.

I wish super delegates would be done away with again for the reasons I stated. But I don't worry that their votes will conflict with the popular vote.

(02-19-2016, 01:17 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(02-19-2016, 11:33 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: There's WAY too much attention given to superdelegates in this primary. Relax, they are used for ties.

I'm pretty relaxed here Gunnar.

I wish super delegates would be done away with again for the reasons I stated. But I don't worry that their votes will conflict with the popular vote.

You are one of the few.

Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders by about 5 percentage points in the Nevada Democratic caucus yesterday.

Though it's not a lot of delegates, she really needed that victory to dampen Sanders' momentum.

Sanders again got the majority youth vote. But Hillary got the African American vote about 75% to 25%. Bernie did capture more of the Latino vote according to entrance polls, but if he can't make more inroads with black voters, he's going to get trounced in the South Carolina Democratic primaries next weekend.

Oh lord......I wonder if she would at least keep her hair washed so she didn't look like a fuckin bag lady

Hillary won SC by a whopping 77%.

(02-27-2016, 08:49 PM)Duchess Wrote: Hillary won SC by a whopping 77%.

Yeah, you go girl! Hillary for President!

(02-24-2016, 08:38 AM)Cowboy_ron Wrote: Oh lord......I wonder if she would at least keep her hair washed so she didn't look like a fuckin bag lady

Well, Pilgrim......what does your hair look like? I would say compared to Trump the Chump, her hair is beautiful.....wonder why women are always target for clothing, hair, makeup, etc....well, no I take that back. Donald is getting a lot of that, too....Cheers!

(02-27-2016, 11:08 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Yeah, you go girl! Hillary for President!

CNN changed their numbers since then - it's now 73.5%

(02-27-2016, 08:49 PM)Duchess Wrote: Hillary won SC by a whopping 77%.

O lord....as if the last 8 years haven't been torture enough, now we have to choose between the bag lady and big mouth for the next 4.

I like Bernie Sanders. I think his candidacy has done good for the country; he's reminded a lot of people that money isn't all that matters and that there's an alternative to just accepting the status quo and disengaging.

But, unless Hillary Clinton is charred or indicted by the results of the FBI investigation, I suspect that Bernie's chance of overtaking Hillary in pledged/earned delegates is slim to none. He needs the black vote and he's just not able to get above about 20% of that demographic, it appears.

It looks highly likely, based on polls and the SC results, that Sanders will earn many fewer pledged delegates on Super Tuesday than Clinton. Hillary Clinton will not need to be the first Democratic presidential candidate to use Super Delegates to win the nomination, in my opinion. Still, if Bernie keeps getting individual donations and can win a few states, I won't blame him if he stays in the race so he can keep spreading his message.

I still don't like any of them. The circus act that is the Republican nomination trumps any discussion of Hillary's lying ass or Bernie's crackpot ideas.

Lindsey Graham saying his party has gone batshit crazy was pretty damn funny. Not as funny as the former Mexico Prez' comments but hilarious nonetheless.

(02-28-2016, 02:08 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I like Bernie Sanders. I think his candidacy has done good for the country; he's reminded a lot of people that money isn't all that matters in and that there's an alternative to just accepting the status quo and disengaging.

But, unless Hillary Clinton is charred or indicted by the results of the FBI investigation, I suspect that Bernie's chance of overtaking Hillary in pledged/earned delegates is slim to none. He needs the black vote and he's just not able to get above about 20% of that demographic, it appears.

It looks highly likely, based on polls and the SC results, that Sanders will earn many fewer pledged delegates on Super Tuesday than Clinton. Hillary Clinton will not need to be the first Democratic presidential candidate to use Super Delegates to win the nomination, in my opinion. Still, if Bernie keeps getting individual donations and can win a few states, I won't blame him if he stays in the race so he can keep spreading his message.

I like a lot of what he stands for too, but his age is the biggest negative...imo