Obama was demonized by the right almost as much as Trump is from the left. Even some of the established right are not liking his talk. Obama had a pig pile of lefties on his bus. I just wish for smaller government and Trump is the only one that is willing to take on both parties. Both are twice as corrupt as he is. Oh well I'm leaning towards the Senate and Governor races anyways. I hope he wins but either way I'm losing interest.

Trump suporters want him in the white house because they are either similarly minded, which should be a cause for great personal shame, or they are so fearful of the pressure of choice they have accepted the idea of an authoritarian leader. Which is even more dangerous. The backlash against Trump is nothing like what Bush or even Obama faced, because those men were politicians even if one was an idiot. Trump is dangerous and his followers at this late date are morons. No exceptions.

Fuck off you self righteous asshole.

I detect a Trump supporter.

No, maybe just not a bully supporter!

(10-23-2016, 07:05 AM)Carsman Wrote: No, maybe just not a bully supporter!

You view people who are told they are morons for supporting Trump as being bullied? For my entire adult life people have given me shit for my Clinton love, I've never once felt bullied.

(10-23-2016, 07:10 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(10-23-2016, 07:05 AM)Carsman Wrote: No, maybe just not a bully supporter!

You view people who are told they are morons for supporting Trump as being bullied? For my entire adult life people have given me shit for my Clinton love, I've never once felt bullied.

Maybe that's cause you're a TOB!

Types of Bullying:

Bullying can take on many forms. As part of the Olweus Bullying Questionnaire, people are asked if they have been bullied in any of these ways: (See number 1)

1. Verbal bullying including derogatory comments and bad names
2. Bullying through social exclusion or isolation
3. Physical bullying such as hitting, kicking, shoving, and spitting
4. Bullying through lies and false rumors
5. Having money or other things taken or damaged by people who bully

(To name a few)

Cars, did you just call me a cunt?

(10-23-2016, 07:21 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Cars, did you just call me a cunt?

Where ever did you get that from? Nevah!

TOB: Tough Ole Broad!

(10-23-2016, 07:24 AM)Carsman Wrote:


Where did you get that come from? Nevah!

TOB: Tough Ole Broad!

Love your reaction.

I didn't know what TOB meant so I went to the Urban Dictionary and this is the definition they gave me -

TOB - (Noun). The name of a person that is self-obsessed, unneccessarily aggressive, ignorant and obscenely arrogant. A complete and utter cunt.

(10-23-2016, 07:28 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(10-23-2016, 07:24 AM)Carsman Wrote:


Where did you get that come from? Nevah!

TOB: Tough Ole Broad!

Love your reaction.

I didn't know what TOB meant so I went to the Urban Dictionary and this is the definition they gave me -

TOB - (Noun). The name of a person that is self-obsessed, unneccessarily aggressive, ignorant and obscenely arrogant. A complete and utter cunt.

Jezus! I just made TOB up, I never use the UD, as I don't even know where to find it. That's a dangerous thing!

(Edit: OK, I just typed UD in the header box and found it! It's crazy)

Holy cow, i'm a cunt!

Hahaha!

I've noticed lately that the "non-PC" cheerleaders and the "bully!" criers are often the same people, which is kind of odd to me.

-- Bullying, the spewing of bullshit, and the propagation of baseless conspiracy theories by people they like or with whom they agree = refreshing, authentic, non-PC telling-it-like-it-is...

--Presenting facts and strongly expressing informed opinions which contradict their beliefs = bullying, condescension, liberal blindness...

Personally, I don't think all Trump supporters are racists, or sexists, or morons. I also don't think all Hillary supporters are blind or have their heads up their asses. And, I considered it ignorant when people implied that I was a naive nutjob/free-loader for respecting Bernie Sanders' passion and several of his points/goals.

But, I don't consider it "bullying" when sound-minded adults engaging in debate or mocking toss out such labels and banter. For me, it would be really weird (and boring) for people here to refrain from saying what they really mean, diplomatically or not, for fear of hurting the overly-sensitive or being accused of bullying.

Sometimes I just wanna grab those cry babies by the pussy!

There are things I see and hear with my own eyes and ears from both sides and the media blows it out of proportion and people follow along with it. It gets on my nerves and it always has, just not this election. I can't count the times I've seen Obama getting shit over stuff that was completely groundless. For example Trump making fun of the disabled reporter for forgetting about the people on the roof tops in NJ cheering 9/11. I saw Trump with my own eyes making the same hand gestures when Cruz forgot something. Is Cruz disabled in some way too other than being a slimeball? He wasn't making fun of the guys bum hand, he was making a gesture about the guy conveniently forgetting about what happened. But now he likes to make fun of handicapped people because the media says so. Or Hillary with the deplorables, clearly she didn't mean everyone voting for Trump is scum, but of course all the idiots ran with it.

So yes, when I don't follow this shit as much as other people do, but these same people will take things out of context to suit their own agenda instead of looking at it sound and logically, I will say they have their heads up their ass. That's why I don't vote. I think anyone that does is retarded.

I didn't mean state elections, those are more important than choosing between two people you don't like because that's what the news told you to do.

Well, I'm not tempted to grab your pussy because you're not a cry baby, sal. However, you're sometimes a bully crier (in defense of other people, not yourself) and I often think you're off-base in that regard, but don't really care.

I thought it was stupid when people acted like Trump was serious about throwing a baby out of a rally. He was obviously joking, in my opinion. I also thought it was funny when he joked about Melania ripping off Michelle Obama at that charity dinner a few days ago, though I understand that some people saw it as throwing his wife under the bus. The Alicia Machado 'fat shaming' deal was a big 'so what?' to me because she entered a beauty pageant and played along with the whole thing for publicity. Clinton was smart and got a lot of mileage out of it, however, because she correctly assessed Trump's inability to refrain from getting obsessed and not being able to let it go when she tossed out the bait. Trump showed his lack of discipline and pettiness in how he handled it, in my view.

Here's what I think does matter. Trump stiffed so many small businesses like your's and mine, knowing he was gonna stiff them before they even started work on his projects (by his own admission). That's not smart business, that's a fucking scheister with no professional integrity. Why some people admire or excuse that shit is beyond me.

Trump also uses cheap foreign labor instead of American workers, which I personally understand as a business owner. However, I also understand that he's a hypocrite and full of shit when he chastises other people/businesses who use foreign labor.

In addition, Trump proudly declared himself the king of debt and, again, displayed his hypocrisy by later lambasting the government for being in debt.

Plus, the "Obama is a Kenyan Muslim" birther idiocy Trump floated for years (even after Obama's short and long birth certificates were released) in order to gather a certain type of base for his entry into politics tells me a lot about who Trump is and how he operates.

The whole "I'll release my tax returns if Obama supplies his birth certificate", then "I'll release my tax returns if I run for President", then "I'll release my tax returns when the audit is complete".... game Trump continues to play is also indicative, to me, of the fact that Trump is full of shit and not "authentic" or transparent at all. He keeps changing his excuses. He can release his tax returns despite being under audit. And, there's nothing preventing him from releasing already-audited tax returns from earlier this decade. I can see how the fact that he has legally chosen not to pay any personal income tax wouldn't be a deal-breaker for many, but the broken promises and changing excuses should be hard for anyone to swallow, in my view.

And, I think you stating that Trump doesn't objectify women is asinine; but we often disagree on such issues. I listen and understand where you're coming from, I just don't agree with you. Trump proudly objectified women on Howard Stern year after year, including his own daughter. He said outright and proudly that he can't say he respects women. He said that women should be treated like shit. He admitted to barging in on contestants in beauty pageants because he wanted to see naked young women with great bodies and he liked that he could get away with it. And, that hot mic tape where he brags about groping and kissing women without consent says a whole lot about how he regards women in relation to himself, regardless as to whether he did those things or not (I believe he did in some cases, but just thinking it's cool to claim he did as a 59-year-old husband and father is some concerning juvenile misogynistic bullshit on its own, to me).

I think Clinton is very deliberate, cautious, not very transparent, paranoid about attacks from 'the right', and sometimes lies and misleads when it's to her advantage. Plus, she is too hawkish and interventionist for my taste and plays the political game like a motherfucker. I'm not a Clinton lover. However, she's smart, she doesn't appear to objectify women or men, she isn't looking to limit rights and choices for large groups of people, she has helped millions of people in her public service and through her family's foundation, she's been praised for her commitment and ability to work bi-partisan by both Democratic and Republican politicians, and she doesn't whine like a cry baby bitch whenever things don't go her way.

So, for me, it's not a hard choice. Then again, I don't have it in my mind that Clinton is the devil incarnate, like a lot of Trump supporters do. And, as an American with a lot of freedom at a time when the economy and most other issues are as good or better than they've been in a long time here or anywhere else in the world, I'm not convinced that we're at the end of days or on the ledge, as a lot of Trump fans are.

So, I'll vote for Clinton and others who view the world, the U.S., and our two presidential candidates way differently than I do will vote for Trump. Even if Trump wins, and I sincerely hope he doesn't, I'll be grateful that his victory was decided by free and fair elections and won't cry like a bitch because my preference didn't come to fruition.

(10-24-2016, 12:53 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well, I'm not tempted to grab your pussy because you're not a cry baby, sal. However, you're sometimes a bully crier (in defense of other people, not yourself) and I often think you're off-base in that regard, but don't really care.

I thought it was stupid when people acted like Trump was serious about throwing a baby out of a rally. He was obviously joking, in my opinion. I also thought it was funny when he joked about Melania ripping off Michelle Obama at that charity dinner a few days ago, though I understand that some people saw it as throwing his wife under the bus. The Alicia Machado 'fat shaming' deal was a big 'so what?' to me because she entered a beauty pageant and played along with the whole thing for publicity. Clinton was smart and got a lot of mileage out of it, however, because she correctly assessed Trump's inability to refrain from getting obsessed and not being able to let it go when she tossed out the bait. Trump showed his lack of discipline and pettiness in how he handled it, in my view.

Here's what I think does matter. Trump stiffed so many small businesses like your's and mine, knowing he was gonna stiff them before they even started work on his projects (by his own admission). That's not smart business, that's a fucking scheister with no professional integrity. Why some people admire or excuse that shit is beyond me.

Trump also uses cheap foreign labor instead of American workers, which I personally understand as a business owner. However, I also understand that he's a hypocrite and full of shit when he chastises other people/businesses who use foreign labor.

In addition, Trump proudly declared himself the king of debt and, again, displayed his hypocrisy by later lambasting the government for being in debt.

Plus, the "Obama is a Kenyan Muslim" birther idiocy Trump floated for years (even after Obama's short and long birth certificates were released) in order to gather a certain type of base for his entry into politics tells me a lot about who Trump is and how he operates.

The whole "I'll release my tax returns if Obama supplies his birth certificate", then "I'll release my tax returns if I run for President", then "I'll release my tax returns when the audit is complete".... game Trump continues to play is also indicative, to me, of the fact that Trump is full of shit and not "authentic" or transparent at all. He keeps changing is excuses. He can release his tax returns despite being under audit. And, there's nothing preventing him from releasing already-audited tax returns from earlier this decade. I can see how the fact that he hasn't legally paid any person income tax wouldn't be a deal-breaker for many, but the broken promises and changing excuses should be hard for anyone to swallow, in my view.

And, I think you stating that Trump doesn't objectify women is asinine; but we often disagree on such issues. I listen and understand where you're coming from, I just don't agree with you. Trump proudly objectified women on Howard Stern year after year, including his own daughter. He said outright and proudly that he can't say he respects women. He said that women should be treated like shit. He admitted to barging in on contestants in beauty pageants because he wanted to see naked young women with great bodies and he liked that he could get away with it. And, that hot mic tape where he brags about groping and kissing women without consent says a whole lot about how he regards women in relation to himself, regardless as to whether he did those things or not (I believe he did is some cases, but just thinking it's cool to claim he did as a 59-year-old husband and father is some concerning juvenile misogynistic bullshit on its own, to me).

I think Clinton is very deliberate, cautious, not very transparent, paranoid about attacks from 'the right', and sometimes lies and misleads when it's to to her advantage. Plus, she is too hawkish and interventionist for my taste and plays the political game like a motherfucker. I'm not a Clinton lover. However, she's smart, she doesn't appear to objectify women or men, she isn't looking to limit rights and choices for large groups of people, she has helped millions of people in her public service and through her family's foundation, she's been praised for her commitment and ability to work bi-partisan by both Democratic and Republican politicians, and she doesn't whine like a cry baby bitch whenever things don't go her way.

So, for me, it's not a hard choice. Then again, I don't have it in my mind that Clinton is the devil incarnate, like a lot of Trump supporters do. And, as an American with a lot of freedom at a time when the economy and most other issues are as good or better than they've been in a long time here or anywhere else in the world, I'm not convinced that we're at the end of days or on the ledge, as a lot of Trump fans do.

So, I'll vote for Clinton and others who view the world, the U.S., and our two presidential candidates way differently than I do will vote for Trump. Even if Trump wins, and I sincerely hope he doesn't, I'll be grateful that his victory was decided by free and fair elections and won't cry like a bitch because my preference didn't come to fruition.

damn girl, you buzzed?

Not buzzed.........yet. I am tired though and not worried about editing or anything else. Are you too buzzed to comprehend what I wrote, Biggie? It was pretty direct and clear, I thought.

Your spelling is normally spot on, might be because our little angel Sally trips your trigger...