So now I have to go and read goddamn reports because I shouldn't have anything better to do .Fuck you and fuck the report.

(04-26-2019, 07:58 PM)Rootilda Wrote:

(04-26-2019, 02:40 PM)Maggot Wrote:

(04-26-2019, 02:17 PM)Duchess Wrote: I thought you said you were reading the report? Are you just humoring me?

There is no collusion in the report.

How about obstruction?

No there is no obstruction. There IS someone defending themselves from a political smear job. He IS allowed to defend himself. End of story. He IS allowed to fire anyone he damn well pleases if they are serving at his pleasure. Doing so is NOT obstructing justice IF he does not seek to stop the investigation AND no firing someone does not stop an investigation. Also something damning in the report is NOT PROOF that it is 100% true nor is it without its own spin as it is written with assistance of Andrew Weismann (Look up his history with Arthur Andersen and the human toll it took there and for what).

Read up on the Iran-Contra affair with George Herbert Walker Bush. Pretending that the President does not have the constitutional powers he has because you do not like him is the height of dishonesty.

President nitwit is going to get somebody killed and there will be those who defend that. At his klan rally yesterday he said, "the baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully and then the doctor and mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."

My favorite part of his klan rallies is always when he talks about getting rid of Obamacare and the crowd cheers because they are too fuckin' stupid to understand that it's their own insurance he is talking about.

(04-28-2019, 06:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: President nitwit is going to get somebody killed and there will be those who defend that. At his klan rally yesterday he said, "the baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully and then the doctor and mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."

My favorite part of his klan rallies is always when he talks about getting rid of Obamacare and the crowd cheers because they are too fuckin' stupid to understand that it's their own insurance he is talking about.

I love the bit where people hearing about the Trump rallies are too fucking stupid to realise that it is not a Klan rally and do not understand that Klansman are against Jews and Trump is not only the biggest supporter of Israel but full to the brim in his administration with Jewish people AND his own daughter and grandchildren are Jewish.

I mean Duchess would you not think someone who consistently called Trump's rallies Klan rallies given that has to be either REALLY stupid or REALLY dishonest? If not could you explain contextualising the facts I just laid down? Give it a shot.

How about you kiss my fat, hairy ass, you ridiculous cocksucka.

(04-28-2019, 07:30 AM)Duchess Wrote: How about you kiss my fat, hairy ass, you ridiculous cocksucka.

Gotcha. So you were being ridiculous and dishonest. Cool.

For god's sake how hairy is it?

Well at least Klan rallies are American not like a Communist/Socialist rally.  

(04-28-2019, 10:55 AM)BigMark Wrote: For god's sake how hairy is it?

Long enough to braid.  

I like braids.

Also
The biggest advocates for or against stuff are usually the ones doing stuff-such as someone who rallies against Gay Marriage-is really gay themself-or someone who advocates against abortion has maybe asked several women to have them, or those who appear to be against sex-trafficing end up being a big sex trafficer or user themselves....are you folling the trend here?

Just because Trump has jewish family members or once kissed a black gal doesn't mean he isnt' a Klan supporter.

(04-28-2019, 07:31 PM)MirahM Wrote: I like braids.

Also
The biggest advocates for or against stuff are usually the ones doing stuff-such as someone who rallies against Gay Marriage-is really gay themself-or someone who advocates against abortion has maybe asked several women to have them, or those who appear to be against sex-trafficing end up being a big sex trafficer or user themselves....are you folling the trend here?

Just because Trump has jewish family members or once kissed a black gal doesn't mean he isnt' a Klan supporter.

Yes, aren't you clever?

Let's admit that there is such a thing as exceptions to every rule. Once you do this, then you claim that exceptions are the rule and this is the framework we need to address your premise. Then you want me agree that if there can be exceptions then I must concede that this is therefore an exception worth consideration based on your speculation and every instance of him doing something against your narrative is an exception to your premise.

How about no? How about this is about as ideological and intellectually dishonest as you can get?

You need to actually make a case not smear and pretend it is a valid argument.

One of the biggest problems with this lack of intellectual rigour is that it is feeling-based and not fact-based. You believe something is true and so you disregard anything on the contrary and embrace the things that make you feel good, moral, "on the right side of history" or clever. There is no internal process to which to examine what you feel against the facts against.

Just because Trump:

1) Had dated a black Girlfriend
2) Always treated her well (according to her)
3) Had a strong relationship with a lot of prominent Black leaders in the community including Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
4) Has campaign for Blacks and Jews to be able to join the Palm Beach Golf course and lodge and won a $100 million lawsuit for discrimination
5) Put up Jennifer Hudson and her family in his hotel for free when her family members where killed
6) He is very close with Lynne Patton and she has a prominent place in his family Business and now his administration
7) He promoted and supported Katrina Pierson
8) He put Dr Ben Carson in charge of HUD
9) Some of his most powerful voices in his cabinet are Jewish including Stephen Miller, Steven Mnuchin, and Jared Kushner
10) His Grandkids and daughter are Jewish.

Now....it is not JUST that he kissed a black girl one time.........is it? It is not just that he has Jewish relatives.......is it?

There is a SHITLOAD of things and I have quickly named 10 points off the top of my head which are COMPLETELY against a narrative of someone that is in the Klan would do. I am not even sure if you would like to be the person to equate him as someone with the tremendous cunning, deception and intellect to do all of this whilst keeping their secret identity a secret AND whilst denouncing the Klan whilst secretly supporting them.

In fact it looks like the safer bet is that he is at best not a Klansman nor a bigot toward Jewish people or Black people and at worst that he is possibly someone who does both really positive things for black people and Jewish people and someone who also occasionally says careless things that sound awful and bigoted. A mixed bag. What you cannot do is look at all of that list of 10 and pretend it is 2 things or 1 thing or of no consequence and ONLY things you can find to support your narrative are the sum of his behaviour, because that is intellectually dishonest.

Trump is not racist he speaks about things in a non politically correct way, the way most people speak. I would hate to have to watch everything I say to make everyone in a room comfortable so i can see how some fragile minds could think he was racist.

Truth.

Would his Russian handlers allow him to be in the KKK?

As long as he keeps being their useful idiot they don't give a shit what he does.

(04-29-2019, 11:26 AM)Duchess Wrote: As long as he keeps being their useful idiot they don't give a shit what he does.

Can you give actual reasons he would be a "useful idiot" to Russia?

You can't can you? That was another mainstream anti-Trump talking point and you have not thought on it. Ever get tired of spouting ideas that are not your own?

Not that I care much about polls and approval ratings but Trump and Obama have the same at this point in their presidency. Then I started thinking "Obama is not the best watermark to be judged by" that's when I started to look for Lincolns.

Awww, president nitwit had a temper tantrum while with Speaker Pelosi and doesn't want to work with Democrats while they are investigating him.

On a much lighter note, we've all had a hand in paying $102 million so he can golf. Not even complaining, go away, stay away.

I'm so goddamn glad he is one dumbass muthafucka. If he had half a brain we would be in even worse shit with him behind the wheel.

That Rose Garden presser was really... something.

I haven't seen it yet but I intend to look for it later when it's peaceful & I have time to watch it in its entirety.

According to a White House correspondent this is what went down earlier -  

Trump marched into the room, refused to shake any hands or sit and laced into Pelosi for accusing him of a coverup. After just three minutes, he left, and told reporters he could not work with Democrats until they end “phony investigations.”