(12-07-2009, 11:47 PM)IMaDick Wrote: most dictionaries , you mean the ones you did not post links to or even the copy pasted representations of ?

Yes, that IS what I mean.

I didn't realize you have such trouble navigating the internet, but here are some links for you. This is like 'leave no child behind' - online! :

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=animal (Princeton University)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animal

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/animal

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Animal

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi...of-animals (Britannica)

Do I need to go on? :

(12-08-2009, 12:04 AM)SyberBitch Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 11:47 PM)IMaDick Wrote: most dictionaries , you mean the ones you did not post links to or even the copy pasted representations of ?

Yes, that IS what I mean.

I didn't realize you have such trouble navigating the internet, but here are some links for you. This is like 'leave no child behind' - online! :

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=animal (Princeton University)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animal

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/animal

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Animal

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi...of-animals (Britannica)

Do I need to go on? :

you probably should have ,but try reading the definitions not just posting them. One of the things about learning is that all of the information must be taken together, No where in the definition of Human do you find any reference to animals, do you know why ?

I just thought I would help you get back on track, since we were actually discussing humans being animals , not animals being human your definitions should have been these ones.

nice try though !::laughp::



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Human

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Human

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Human

Plant, animal, mineral.

Iamadick isn't an animal, he is definitely more of a vegetable or mineral.

(12-08-2009, 09:12 AM)Middle Finger Wrote: Plant, animal, mineral.

thats really good MF now break it down by genus and you will find out what Im talking about.

we have a few things in common, like I said if syber wanted to talk about the similarities as mammals she would have some room for discussion.

commonalities among mammals , we eat , we digest , we shit, we as a species give live birth although it takes 9 months for humans and six weeks or so for dogs and varying other degree's of seperation for other species.

generalities can be so boring and actually so deceptive if left at that level.

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

They fucking love it, hamsters run an average of three miles a night in their wheels. They love their balls, and when you put them in the racecars they go like the clappers. They are naturally curious and playful but they need stimuliation and exercise, balls and wheels are the only practical means of giving them this exercise.

It doesn't matter anyway.
You are the one boasting how life is precious (remember the abortion comment that got ignored?) - you're obviously Pro-life but that only means you're only for protecting life of things of YOUR chosing.

If you want to go by your right wing, uptight thinking, then you STILL have it wrong.

PRO LIFE is and should be the protection ALL species of life, not the ones that suit your needs.

NO ONE is pro abortion, it's PRO CHOICE. We can save slapping you around about abortion another day.

But if you in one of your earlier diatribes, feel ALL life is precious then the attitude you have toward any other species still remains factual that you are a cold mother-fucker who only has feeling for his and his own. You don't care how something suffers on it's way to your table or closet as long as it gets 'dead' in the end.

Your words pal, not ours.

Hardly a far right view anyway because I've worked closely with republicans and democrats on animal welfare and animal rights issues and continue to do so. NONE of them have your point of view.



You're just a cruel whack-job.

(12-07-2009, 08:49 PM)Middle Finger Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

::lol:: True ... a grown man doing that shit ... it's a reflection of his general immaturity - i.e. not getting married, etc. Purposefully has a kid out of wedlock as he plays with hamsters rolling around. God help him.

My god you really are becoming tedious lately greaseball.

I think you need an enema to get rid of all that shit you have for brains.

(12-08-2009, 09:34 AM)The Antagonist Wrote: It doesn't matter anyway.
You are the one boasting how life is precious (remember the abortion comment that got ignored?) - you're obviously Pro-life but that only means you're only for protecting life of things of YOUR chosing.

If you want to go by your right wing, uptight thinking, then you STILL have it wrong.

PRO LIFE is and should be the protection ALL species of life, not the ones that suit your needs.

NO ONE is pro abortion, it's PRO CHOICE. We can save slapping you around about abortion another day.

But if you in one of your earlier diatribes, feel ALL life is precious then the attitude you have toward any other species still remains factual that you are a cold mother-fucker who only has feeling for his and his own. You don't care how something suffers on it's way to your table or closet as long as it gets 'dead' in the end.

Your words pal, not ours.

Hardly a far right view anyway because I've worked closely with republicans and democrats on animal welfare and animal rights issues and continue to do so. NONE of them have your point of view.



You're just a cruel whack-job.

One thing all sides of the political spectrum can agree on is that animal cruelty and the inhumane treatment of animals is wrong, that's because most human beings have compassion and empathy for the suffering of innocent animals and people.

Unlike Iamadick who is nothing but a posturing, cold hearted, selfish, motherfucker with not an ounce of compassion in his body.

I think he thought he would tough and edgy when in fact he just comes across like a complete cunt.

(12-08-2009, 09:29 AM)IMaDick Wrote:

(12-08-2009, 09:12 AM)Middle Finger Wrote: Plant, animal, mineral.

thats really good MF now break it down by genus and you will find out what Im talking about.

we have a few things in common, like I said if syber wanted to talk about the similarities as mammals she would have some room for discussion.

commonalities among mammals , we eat , we digest , we shit, we as a species give live birth although it takes 9 months for humans and six weeks or so for dogs and varying other degree's of seperation for other species.

generalities can be so boring and actually so deceptive if left at that level.

The reason we are so extremely similar to primates - socially, sexually, emotionally, and more - is because we are in that family despite our differences. We are, basically, a third type of chimpanzee. I read a book once called "The Third Chimpanzee" that got into how we would be classified if a superior alien species was categorizing life on earth. Sure, we are more sophisticated and aware, but we are not so different from our primate relatives that a truly advanced alien would think we are not another variation of primate. It is hard to see ourselves as part of the animal world - it is hard to see ourselves as something other than we emotionally need to be.

(12-08-2009, 09:33 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

They fucking love it, hamsters run an average of three miles a night in their wheels. They love their balls, and when you put them in the racecars they go like the clappers. They are naturally curious and playful but they need stimuliation and exercise, balls and wheels are the only practical means of giving them this exercise.

They love it ... I got ya. It must be nice to have a built in hamster love meter. I'm sure they prefer living in a box and using contraptions for exercise. Dumb ass.

(12-08-2009, 09:35 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 08:49 PM)Middle Finger Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

::lol:: True ... a grown man doing that shit ... it's a reflection of his general immaturity - i.e. not getting married, etc. Purposefully has a kid out of wedlock as he plays with hamsters rolling around. God help him.

My god you really are becoming tedious lately greaseball.

I think you need an enema to get rid of all that shit you have for brains.

Be quiet and go put a rodent in an exercise ball, then keep him in a glass box. You know, because they prefer it.

(12-08-2009, 09:51 AM)Middle Finger Wrote:

(12-08-2009, 09:33 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

They fucking love it, hamsters run an average of three miles a night in their wheels. They love their balls, and when you put them in the racecars they go like the clappers. They are naturally curious and playful but they need stimuliation and exercise, balls and wheels are the only practical means of giving them this exercise.

They love it ... I got ya. It must be nice to have a built in hamster love meter. I'm sure they prefer living in a box and using contraptions for exercise. Dumb ass.

Always naturally returning to their cage if they escape must just be coincidence then dipshit?

Your obsession with hamsters is becoming ever more tedious and slightly creepy, is it all you've got left?

(12-08-2009, 09:34 AM)The Antagonist Wrote: It doesn't matter anyway.
You are the one boasting how life is precious (remember the abortion comment that got ignored?) - you're obviously Pro-life but that only means you're only for protecting life of things of YOUR chosing.

If you want to go by your right wing, uptight thinking, then you STILL have it wrong.

PRO LIFE is and should be the protection ALL species of life, not the ones that suit your needs.

NO ONE is pro abortion, it's PRO CHOICE. We can save slapping you around about abortion another day.

But if you in one of your earlier diatribes, feel ALL life is precious then the attitude you have toward any other species still remains factual that you are a cold mother-fucker who only has feeling for his and his own. You don't care how something suffers on it's way to your table or closet as long as it gets 'dead' in the end.

Your words pal, not ours.

Hardly a far right view anyway because I've worked closely with republicans and democrats on animal welfare and animal rights issues and continue to do so. NONE of them have your point of view.



You're just a cruel whack-job.

Now now ant your winding yourself all up.

what I see is a fundamental lack of understanding on your part.

not only in this thread but in the other as well.

but ya lets save the other one till you have enough guts to stand up for right and wrong across the board, I could very well throw your acceptance of abortion into the mix here and wonder how you can care about animals and not fetuses but I won't ,I could also wonder to my self you understand how it is that you could call me a right wing uptight thinking whack job when you accept a million lives ended a year by abortion, but those are just my thoughts and not for you to react to.

stated simply I understand that we as a culture have used animals for all kinds of things and some animals are intended or at least as a culture we have established a purpose that some animals serve in our lives.

you on the other hand have failed to understand that simple line of reasoning.

like your ass clown buddy who thinks that its ok to keep animal life in captivity in glass boxes but its not ok to keep and raise minks for the fur industry.

the simple fact is that neither is wrong because based on our culture we are all lords of the animal world in one way or another, and denial by you and ass clone is nothing less than hypocritical and dishonest.

I wonder if you are big enough to admit your hypocrisy?

(12-08-2009, 09:59 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(12-08-2009, 09:51 AM)Middle Finger Wrote:

(12-08-2009, 09:33 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 07:45 PM)sally Wrote:

(12-07-2009, 01:29 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: Let's see ... a whole house and property to roam with their own spaces ... or a fucking box. Yeah, it was a close comparison.

I think I would be more concerned that he puts them in little race cars and laughs hysterically at them while they perform circus acts in a play pen.

They fucking love it, hamsters run an average of three miles a night in their wheels. They love their balls, and when you put them in the racecars they go like the clappers. They are naturally curious and playful but they need stimuliation and exercise, balls and wheels are the only practical means of giving them this exercise.

They love it ... I got ya. It must be nice to have a built in hamster love meter. I'm sure they prefer living in a box and using contraptions for exercise. Dumb ass.

Always naturally returning to their cage if they escape must just be coincidence then dipshit?

Your obsession with hamsters is becoming ever more tedious and slightly creepy, is it all you've got left?

I'm just responding to you. If you don't want to talk about hamsters, shut the fuck up about them. Returning to their cage is your big excuse for pretending they prefer a fucking box to what they want naturally, eh? Abused animals and people often return to even the source of blatant abuse, so that's not a good indicator since the box contains their food supply, dumb ass. Now, anything else? Is that all YOU have left?

Your view on abortion is religious based and your distortion of my words is laughable.

NO WHERE did I say a million abortions a year is acceptable. My comments are regarding the RIGHTS of women.

So, you go on, mix, match and make up.
You're pretty fucking funny with that "Lords of all the animal world" shit too.

(12-08-2009, 05:48 PM)The Antagonist Wrote: Your view on abortion is religious based and your distortion of my words is laughable.

AND YOUR ACCPETANCE OF ABORTION IS NOT RELIGIOUS BASED, ITS BASED IN HYPOCRACY BY YOUR CURRENT STANCE IN THIS DISCUSSION.

NO WHERE did I say a million abortions a year is acceptable. My comments are regarding the RIGHTS of women.

YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF ABORTION IS CLEARLY SPOKEN IN YOUR REJECTION OF MY VIEW.

So, you go on, mix, match and make up.

THATS WHAT DEBATE IS, YOU EXPRESS A POINT I COUNTER WITH MY POINT IF YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH YOUR CHOSEN STYLE"YOU KNOW I'M SUCH AN ASS FOR MOCKING IN A SERIOUS THREAD" BULLSHIT EITHER GET SERIOUS OR GET THE FUCK OUT.
You're pretty fucking funny with that "Lords of all the animal world" shit too.

TELL IT TO YOUR BELT,SHOES,LEATHER JACKET,AND BACON, MAYBE THEY WILL SEE THE HUMOR IN YOUR HYPOCRACY, I DO NOT.

(12-08-2009, 08:38 AM)IMaDick Wrote: you probably should have ,but try reading the definitions not just posting them. One of the things about learning is that all of the information must be taken together, No where in the definition of Human do you find any reference to animals, do you know why ?

I just thought I would help you get back on track, since we were actually discussing humans being animals , not animals being human your definitions should have been these ones.

nice try though !::laughp::



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Human

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Human

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Human

You idiot.

Are you truly laboring under the illusion that you are clever?

I DID read the definitions. Did you?

A definition of a DOG would not necessarily mention the word 'animal', any more than the definition of a human would. Does that mean that dogs are not animals, to your little mind?

I've supplied true 'facts' to support my claims. Come up with some decent arguments to support your position and stop the ridiculous posturing as if you've made brilliant points, when in fact your 'points' are incredibly inept. You're beginning to bore me.

Poor syber, I told you to read the definitions not just post your simple opinion about things in a discussion where seriousness has been demanded by you.


Dog

1. a domesticated canid, Canis familiaris, bred in many varieties.
2. any carnivore of the dogfamily Canidae, having prominent canine teeth and, in the wild state, a long and slender muzzle, a deep-chested muscular body, a bushy tail, and large, erect ears. Compare canid.
3. the male of such an animal.
4. any of various animals resembling a dog.

Oh look, it's Dick...Damn shame you can't actually hear me say that 'cuz it sounds just like it does when I refer to DICK Cheney. ...And being soft spoken takes nothing at all away from it...Heh.